farmideas
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Keep em coming Chris - interesting story
can i direct drill wheat into sprayed off grass?
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dug
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That looks absolutely fine, now it's established, the potential of the crop shouldn't be limited by the establishment method at least...... Notill may even enhance it..
Good to see grass weeds being addressed, they are often neglected or under estimated in notill crops, (in this country at least).
YorkshireAndrew
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@chris a list , is that fairly good , free draining land ?
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So the wheat seems to have been a success. What would be the pro's and con's of dd'ing spring barley into sprayed off pasture?
SilliamWhale
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I'm to chicken to do it but I think if you wanted to do it make sure your ph is good enough and your fertility and spray off now or asap and wait until 15th April to drill. Put a high seed rate in (some N and P - down the spout if you can! @dug !), hope it beats the wireworm and it might turn out ok. Make sure you get the seed into soil.
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well heres another update.
Taken today. Its amazing how far its come on since the last pictures. There is a down side which has been a shame.
On the far side of the field there`s a patch that has been damaged by slugs through the winter and latterly been hit also by those damned leather jackets. Anyway I drilled some more seed in the area about a fortnight ago ( as i had a bit left ) and its coming through well . The extent of leather jackets is now becoming clear and i sprayed dursban on the effected area last night and early this morning at a very high water volume and hope to get a drop of rain here over night to wash it in.
There are some patches in the low areas of the field which i treated too and i hope i have checked the problem.
Its quite annoying or maybe lucky that the areas effected arent in the areas i have pictured through the season but it is visible in the far side of this latest picture.
I will post pics of the troubled area when i can bring myself to photo it. Its true to say that looking at the crop to regularly doesnt give a contrast of progress and i am now amazed by the diference from the last pictures i took.
My fingers are now crossed for the damaged area and I must try not to go and look at it every hour.
Taken today. Its amazing how far its come on since the last pictures. There is a down side which has been a shame.
On the far side of the field there`s a patch that has been damaged by slugs through the winter and latterly been hit also by those damned leather jackets. Anyway I drilled some more seed in the area about a fortnight ago ( as i had a bit left ) and its coming through well . The extent of leather jackets is now becoming clear and i sprayed dursban on the effected area last night and early this morning at a very high water volume and hope to get a drop of rain here over night to wash it in.
There are some patches in the low areas of the field which i treated too and i hope i have checked the problem.
Its quite annoying or maybe lucky that the areas effected arent in the areas i have pictured through the season but it is visible in the far side of this latest picture.
I will post pics of the troubled area when i can bring myself to photo it. Its true to say that looking at the crop to regularly doesnt give a contrast of progress and i am now amazed by the diference from the last pictures i took.
My fingers are now crossed for the damaged area and I must try not to go and look at it every hour.
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I'm toying with doing something similar on a block of pasture later this year however potentially leaning towards a spring wheat or barley as ground is always wet over winter.
Either glypho and dursban in autumn or if feeling brave wait until ground drying next spring then hope its early enough to leave a suitable window prior to drilling re the two-simons theory....??
I'm toying with doing something similar on a block of pasture later this year however potentially leaning towards a spring wheat or barley as ground is always wet over winter.
Either glypho and dursban in autumn or if feeling brave wait until ground drying next spring then hope its early enough to leave a suitable window prior to drilling re the two-simons theory....??
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here we are. taken on the 15/5/15 . I will take some more today
Everything is looking good apart from the damaged area i stitched in in late march. It hasnt vernilised very successfully and has just tillered into a mat of green but at least its green cover.There are a few stems with nodes that are reaching for the sky but time will tell.
Its true to say that my only real knowledge in crop production is establishment and mechanical operations there after and i am totally blind as far as the agronomy side of things , although i know a healthy crop i dont know how to treat it but i`m sure that will come .
I was advised to spray the grass with dursban before drilling but I didnt want to for wildlife reasons and i personally think the life in the soil was more important than just following a blanket formula of genocide.
Although i have suffered a maximum loss of 4 acres ( i think its more likely to be 2 acres ) of the 30 , I still think that treating the areas effected all be it too late was the right thing to do.
I saved money on quantity of chemical and left most of the field thriving with soil life in abundance.
So my cost so far has been pretty economical and signs are good for a sensible yield.
Its good to be an opportunist and make your plan on what the conditions are at the time.
Something else that amazed me this year.
I decided to use my old 2wd ford tractors for both fertilizing and spraying on the 150 acres I am responsible for ( 80 acres contract ). It was both good fun and convenient as I left the sprayer on one and the fert spreader on another. The ford 6700 with krm ex trend spreader used a massive 32litres of fuel covering a total of 400 acres which i am amazed by and the ford 6410 with hardi 12m lhy1000 used 52litres of fuel covering all autumn and spring spraying up to row crop time.
I may have been able to shave a litre or two off the 6700`s fuel if i didnt use the air con but what the hell you only live once.
Everything is looking good apart from the damaged area i stitched in in late march. It hasnt vernilised very successfully and has just tillered into a mat of green but at least its green cover.There are a few stems with nodes that are reaching for the sky but time will tell.
Its true to say that my only real knowledge in crop production is establishment and mechanical operations there after and i am totally blind as far as the agronomy side of things , although i know a healthy crop i dont know how to treat it but i`m sure that will come .
I was advised to spray the grass with dursban before drilling but I didnt want to for wildlife reasons and i personally think the life in the soil was more important than just following a blanket formula of genocide.
Although i have suffered a maximum loss of 4 acres ( i think its more likely to be 2 acres ) of the 30 , I still think that treating the areas effected all be it too late was the right thing to do.
I saved money on quantity of chemical and left most of the field thriving with soil life in abundance.
So my cost so far has been pretty economical and signs are good for a sensible yield.
Its good to be an opportunist and make your plan on what the conditions are at the time.
Something else that amazed me this year.
I decided to use my old 2wd ford tractors for both fertilizing and spraying on the 150 acres I am responsible for ( 80 acres contract ). It was both good fun and convenient as I left the sprayer on one and the fert spreader on another. The ford 6700 with krm ex trend spreader used a massive 32litres of fuel covering a total of 400 acres which i am amazed by and the ford 6410 with hardi 12m lhy1000 used 52litres of fuel covering all autumn and spring spraying up to row crop time.
I may have been able to shave a litre or two off the 6700`s fuel if i didnt use the air con but what the hell you only live once.
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JNG
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fantastic result
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taken this evening seems to have bulked up in the last couple of weeks nicely
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Here's some spring wheat we drilled into a grass ley earlier this year in Holderness. Not the lightest of ground, and has been down to grass for the last 3yrs as part of a BG control plan.
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+1 to these questions plus what drill was it edit just zoomed in can see it's a sumo
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The field received 1.5kgs of glyphos which I think is about 3 ltrs 4 days before drilling, and has had a post em broad leaf herbicide since and I think that's it. I am heading that was this afternoon so I will find out more and get some pics.
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