Why are people buying Nitrogen?

Brisel

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Arable Farmer
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Midlands
A few TFFers have. See the Fertiliser Price Tracker thread. Whether enough have bought to put a floor in the market remains to be seen. I'm holding off. I have no plans to alter my cropping just yet either.
 
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Brisel

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Arable Farmer
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Midlands
I am sure there will be an area of fallow this year, how much remains to be seen. With bad blackgrass and a poor margins on most crops there seems very little reason not to fallow a proportion. I also strongly believe that the spring cereal market will rise considerably and therefore reduce Nitrogen demand significantly.

If there is a proportion of each farm set aside as fallow instead of osr/beans/peas/oats, do you think that if gran prices perk up some of thise acres will be put into spring cropping instead?
 

Banana Bar

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Arable Farmer
Location
Bury St Edmunds
Totally agree, spring crops are not as reliable as winter crops, ours need rain soon to do any good.
As for putting it down to grass or fallow, its a long time before you will sell what you sow this back end. The price can move £100 in 12 months. Had locals do this when the price has gone down to a terrible level, caught them out as the price soon went up again. Rushed back into it the following year to see prices drop again. You just have to take the rough with the smooth
Play with futures then, planting a crop with zero or negative margin is even more risky.
 

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
The way things are going it will be cash flow that dictates how much is drilled and when inputs are bought.

Or am I the only one feeling the pinch and wondering whether I should gamble my reserves on next years crops?

Another year like this one is unsustainable as far as I am concerned or at least the returns will be so low they aren't worth the effort.

Hundreds of acres of land coming up for rent on FBTs round here now. Wonder if there will be any takers?
 
Had call today telling me Lithan is going up in price due to a lot of people buying and supply getting tighter. Pierman is sold out for the time being, the price of Wheat is dropping by the day, we are heading for a massive world harvest, why are farmers rushing to spend money on Fert pushing the price up?

Just ignore the call and forget about it.
 

bert

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Mixed Farmer
Location
n.yorks
Play with futures then, planting a crop with zero or negative margin is even more risky.
It is also risky selling something that you haven't even got in the ground yet or even know what price it is going to stand you at. I'm not sure what future prices are but they can't be great with the current spot price.
 

Derky

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Location
Bucks/oxon
I have had fertiliser sellers on and ignoring the lot. Every one I tell the same your too dear for the value of the finished product. Personally I think they are panicing, the money is not there and certainly not in the value of commodities. As said previously for a change farmers seem to be saying why do I want to plant and make a loss.
 

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