What is this and how do I get rid of it?

KMA

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Location
Dumfriesshire
Sorry to hijack your thread @jemski - thought it would make sense to put this in here rather than starting a new one...

Does anyone know what this is? More to the point, is it a perennial and/or poisonous? TYView attachment 151566View attachment 151568
Definitely comfrey, excellent for bruises/swelling (sold in health shops as Comfrey oil). I'm told it's a fantastic green manure for the garden, not had a chance to try it out though.
 

muppet

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Arable Farmer
Location
Dorset
I've got a massive patch of it by the bale stack. The bees absolutely love it so I don't want to kill it all off, but I do want to hit the docks and nettles etc that are taking over. Looks like a weed wiper job!
 

KMA

Member
Location
Dumfriesshire
I'll be keeping an eye out for it in future there's half a dozen big patches of it at the FedEx depot at Aberdeen, don't think they'd be impressed if I carted a sack full of leaves back in the cab though. Got a 2 hour lecture on the stuff from my co-driver, the other 2.5hrs of the return journey was falconry and greyhound racing, don't think I got more than a dozen words in :shifty:
 

jemski

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Location
Dorset
We cut and baled it last year in one field but it's back with a vengeance. As are the spear thistles. The sheep have eaten most of the other grass down, so I was thinking of weed wiping it - try and kill 2 birds with one stone......? What would do a decent job on them both? I'm new to this weed killing job - it was always my dads obsession at this time of year, even last year, less than 4 weeks before he died of cancer, walking was painful but he was out on the quad spraying!!!!!
 

Bury the Trash

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Mixed Farmer
glyphosate would be the one to use in wiper-just getting the timing right is the challenge.(weed height)- and also the target the grassweed might be difficult if its stem .full glypho/plough down weed seed - and reseed out the question I suppose?
 
I was told by a "goodlifer " that Russian comfrey was the future saviour of the starving world . I t is reckoned to be the best veggie protein producer known, with little input for a heavy crop . Years back people collected it and dried it , so that it could be used as a curative for bruises and sprains , as either a "brew " or a poultice . They also put the green plant in a tub with a drain in it , and collected the run off as a particularly good organic fertiliser when diluted many times . This man kept a few ducks in his garden to eat the slugs ,and he fed them a couple of leaves daily . He said they didn't much like it ,but if they were hungry enough they ate it ! Beliefs of a goodlifer ? Who knows . He also said that it was excellent for the bees as part of his healthy lifestyle as a pollinator and honey producer . He also said that "honey lovers stick together "! No, I didn't enquire too closely .
 

Bury the Trash

Member
Mixed Farmer
I was told by a "goodlifer " that Russian comfrey was the future saviour of the starving world . I t is reckoned to be the best veggie protein producer known, with little input for a heavy crop . Years back people collected it and dried it , so that it could be used as a curative for bruises and sprains , as either a "brew " or a poultice . They also put the green plant in a tub with a drain in it , and collected the run off as a particularly good organic fertiliser when diluted many times . This man kept a few ducks in his garden to eat the slugs ,and he fed them a couple of leaves daily . He said they didn't much like it ,but if they were hungry enough they ate it ! Beliefs of a goodlifer ? Who knows . He also said that it was excellent for the bees as part of his healthy lifestyle as a pollinator and honey producer . He also said that "honey lovers stick together "! No, I didn't enquire too closely .
its got to be palatable tho to be grazed by the stock.sheep are pretty dam fussy unless there is absolutely nothing else available.
 

Old Boar

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Location
West Wales
Comfrey is very deep rooted and supposed to bring up nutrients from way down. If you cut the leaves and tread on them and lay them between rows of anything in the garden, it makes excellent feed while rotting down, suppresses the weeds and slugs dont like it because the hairs are quite sharp.
Comfrey powder is added sometimes to plaster casts as it aids healing, and trials have proved this.
The rotting in a bucket and draw off the liquid method works brilliantly for tomatoes, but it stinks!
Seeds itself rapidly but there is a sterile one - Bocking 14 if memory serves. Wonderful stuff, mine is covered with bees. I counted 7 different types of bumbles on mine today.
 

gatepost

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Location
Cotswolds
[We had a lot of this QUOTE="David., post: 1222356, member: 67"]Soft brome I think, def not sterile brome.[/QUOTE] We had a lot of this , still have a bit. as said Soft brome alias Oat grass, very tight grazing and topping or early silage and getting index's up should help
 

Gulli

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
While you plant experts are at it what is this stuff? Patch of it in a little paddock of mine
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Gulli

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
Looks like vetch and dandelion clocks to me but its a rubbish picture (sorry but it is)
Does it get yellow flowers?


As for comfrey, I use it regularly on sprains, aches etc. it's very good. Got my potion off the vet. :D
On my phone in a hurry :oops: I had figured the dandelion bit out, not sure on the flowers I've mowed it now anyway. Sheep eat it with no ill effects I just wondered (y)
 

ajcc

Member
Livestock Farmer
Its a brome grass, tolerate it as a weed grass as long as you can then do a burn off and reseed. I was "suggesting" the same to my neighbour yesterday, he kept calling it oatgrass and telling me there's plenty of good leafy grass beneath! But fact is its a weed that animals don't like eating and it gets a lot worse year on year so start again in feed value terms.
 

jemski

Member
Location
Dorset
Thank you all. I had planned to put that particular field down to a rape and turnip mix, but with lamb prices as they are I don't think we can afford it. Hopefully going to cut some haylage next week if the forecast is right, so will cut it, bale it and sell it to horse people. Then try and keep on top of it with the sheep over the summer..... I've gone from having not enough grass to not enough sheep in a few weeks......
 

pgk

Member
Thank you all. I had planned to put that particular field down to a rape and turnip mix, but with lamb prices as they are I don't think we can afford it. Hopefully going to cut some haylage next week if the forecast is right, so will cut it, bale it and sell it to horse people. Then try and keep on top of it with the sheep over the summer..... I've gone from having not enough grass to not enough sheep in a few weeks......
Suffering the same issue, got big topper out today for second time which took heads off again, noted that clover is coming through well since last topping. Hope this TLC will get on top of it!
 

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