Dog attack on sheep - what to do?

Tim G

Member
Livestock Farmer
After a bit of advice on how to handle this please.
Yesterday we had a dog get in with our 3 rams. Luckily we heard the barking and shouting from the yard and I flew down on the quad to see what was going on. I found a dog in the field with his jaws sunk into one ram who was trying to get away, the other two nearby running around too. The dog's owner arrived at the same time as me and straight away was very apologetic. I went after the dog shouting and eventually managed to get hold of it in a brief moment that it had let go of a ram. Initially injuries to the rams didn't look too bad, the owner took hold of his dog and was still apologizing. He gave me his name and two telephone numbers and told me that he would pay whatever the vets bill was. His story (and I don't doubt it) was that he'd been at the rec ground watching the football and the dog slipped its lead and made its way across the fields to our rams with the owner giving chase.
He left afterwards and I went to check some of our in-lamb ewes in the nextdoor field but thankfully they were okay. We went back to the rams and had a closer look and ended up getting them in and calling the vet out. One appears to have escaped unharmed, the second has several punctures to the face, ear and scrotum, the third had a really nasty tear to the bottom of the scrotum and only a thin layer of tissue holding his testicle in. The vet cleaned him up, removed the torn section and stitched him up.
This all leaves me in a bit of a dilemma on how to proceed with the dog owner. The vet has provided a detailed report having inspected all three and has made it quite clear that the fertility of each of them is likely to have been reduced. So I'm left with a £300 bill from the vet and three fairly expensive rams that could potentially be infertile. We have insurance ourselves for such things but haven't yet reported to the police. I feel I should phone the dog owner tonight to keep him informed.
What should I do? The vet has suggested prosecuting.
 

Netherfield

Member
Location
West Yorkshire
Personally I think once a dog has done it, it will do it again. Certainly needs to pay the vet bill, the rest only time will tell.

Years ago we had an Alsatian get among some sheep, didn't manage to catch any of them,when we went in the field the dog scarpered, brother followed it home.

Owner most apologetic and didn't know how the dog had escaped the garden, said he would make sure it couldn't happen again, but it did, the third occasion was the last, shotgun saw to that.

Owner complained terribly to the police,afraid police had no sympathy with the guy and told him he was lucky we didn't press charges against him.
 

llamedos

New Member
Go with your gut feeling,
If you believe the man, what good would prosecuting do, so long as he pays the bill (s) warn him it may be on going re the injured, he may well be insured. Ask.
Report it to the police and give them full details and a description of the dog etc ask for the forces wildlife crime officer to visit the owners.
 

Kidds

Member
Horticulture
My very strong belief is that if you choose to keep a dog then you are also responsible for any damage that dog may cause. Any losses you have suffered should be passed on to the dog owner in full. Any hesitation to pay for those losses should be met with immediate prosecution.

Not sure about police involvement as the out come of that one depends very much on the attitude of your local force. It appears the reaction from them varies from full support to treating it as a joke.
 

Top Tip.

Member
Location
highland
We had a dog get in among our ewes last week. Got wife to phone police. I went to chase dog off he wouldn't let me near him but he did leave the ewes and headed off so I followed him just before he got to town met couple out looking for him they were very apologetic but I just told them police would be in to see them. When I got home police were here so I gave them a statement and then they got a statement of my neighbour who had seen it. They then went to charge the owner. We had 5 ewes abort and one died the following day.
 

Netherfield

Member
Location
West Yorkshire
I've always said I'd never be able to shoot a dog. Now I don't think I'd have a problem.

Didn't think of it as a dog at the time, more a Wolf hunting it's prey.

In our case I think we were lucky, quite a few houses overlooking the fields, the sheep had been a relatively quiet flock up to that point, became difficult to go inspect them afterwards, enter the field and they would run away.
 

Matt

Member
When we last had a dog attack. We were lucky, not the fact the dog didnt do too much damage, more to the point the bloke been rural based wanted to know who our vets were, as he wanted them to put the dogs down, know who to expect vet bill off and any cost of livestock.
Im with the report and prosecute side. This is your lively hood. I know accidents happen. But if you had crashed into them or your stock had got out and made a mess of their front garden they would be soon quick to want you to put it right.
Prob best to empathise how these tups were your future blood and how it could effect you. Because some people just dont realise the impact it can have.
 
I have said before on here, flock owners who have problems with dogs should get a Jacob or two, they could be utilised as teaser tups, two jacobs work well on attacking dogs, a Jacob will easily easily fend off large dogs, word soon gets out and dog walkers seem to stay out of the fields they are in. The only downside is they also chase and try to kill collie dogs
 

llamedos

New Member
I have one Jacob ewe she is frightened of her own shadow, and the tiny bully of a North Ronaldsay ewe has her quivering in her little black hooves bless her.

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Kelso690

Member
Report and prosecute. Totally unacceptable. As a dog owner you should be responsible for its whereabouts. What it gets up to when out of there sight is there fault after all the dog is carrying out wild dog behaviour. Not the dogs fault but once it has been allowed to cross that line it will ALWAYS do it again. It needs to be put down because the owner cannot 100% gaurantee it won't get out and do it again. I'm in court next month prosecuting dog owners whose dogs killed ewes with Lambs last year. These people need to take responsibility for what's happened. Get the police to go and take a statement, hopefully they will admit it before they have time to think about what could happen to said dog, and deny it. It's your word against them then and it becomes a nightmare unless you have hard evidence.
 

Tomo23

Member
Livestock Farmer
Had a dog in with mine about a fortnight ago. Only behind an electric fence but ran that hard at it the wire broke and snapped off a wooden corner stake. :eek:
First we knew was the ewes come flying up the bridleway behind the house. No dog or owner in sight but the sheep had been nearly run to death.
Would any abortions have shown by now or will they throw stinky rotten lambs come lambing? Due to start on 20th March.
 

Kelso690

Member
Had a dog in with mine about a fortnight ago. Only behind an electric fence but ran that hard at it the wire broke and snapped off a wooden corner stake. :eek:
First we knew was the ewes come flying up the bridleway behind the house. No dog or owner in sight but the sheep had been nearly run to death.
Would any abortions have shown by now or will they throw stinky rotten lambs come lambing? Due to start on 20th March.
Someone I know had a dog in with some of his 2weeks before lambing he had about half a dozen go down with what he thought was calcium deficiency. They didn't respond to treatment and all had dead lambs inside them. Think they all died. would of thought dead lambs would poison the ewe before 20th March.
 

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