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Flat 10

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Arable Farmer
Location
Fen Edge
First - you need sight of the 2014 SP5 application form to check what the parcel was coded before you jump to conclusions. And then possibly the previous fice SP5 if it were coded TG to see if it is now a PP code.
True. Maybe I am getting ahead of myself, I just can't see why it has a separate field no..........
 

Robigus

Member
@blondeagadvisor you may have touched on this here, but can you confirm that the three crop rule etc. is based on the Single Business Identifier (SBI Number) and not the County/Parish/Holding number (Holding Number) as this could make quite a difference to farms that cover different locations.
 

Robigus

Member
True. Maybe I am getting ahead of myself, I just can't see why it has a separate field no..........
It depends on how the individual has chosen to declare it, they may have done this rather than keep it as a part field.

I'm no expert but I don't think it can have been a DEFRA, RPA thing as we have fields that have been the same split since the schemes started, and they are still part fields.
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
I remerged mine, thinking this might be an issue as there was no clear RLR mapping to mark the part fields. I think it goes back to IACS days.
 

Robigus

Member
Can the 2 metre strips of weeds and rubbish we have had to grow alongside hedges count as fallow then?
Not if it is part of cross compliance, and remember that it is from the centre of a hedge and all our hedges seem to have grown so that the centre is over the middle of the ditch.
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
I think I have been shafted. Farm I will be taking on this autumn has a nice established buffer next to a wiggly watercourse which varies from 6 to over 20m wide and does the job it was designed to do. Farm used to be in CSS ELS etc but all agreements over now. However looking at my new RPA maps it has a separate field no. and is I assume coded as PP1 (what else could it be as been grass for 10yrs+?) In which case will not count towards my greening at all! As it is a long strip could have counted for 30% of EFA requirement. Should say that it was arable once AFAIK so why its got a separate field number I don't know. :banghead::mad:(n)

If it was 'arable once' then surely it would count as improved grassland and could be returned to the arable rotation, assuming it wasn't reseeded with any rare species or anything? Might have to have it in 'arable' one year, before it can become an EFA strip though.
 

Boomerang

Member
So if I leave a 2m un cultivated strip at the edge of a drain carrying water does this go to efa . Is this considered a valid buffer.
What is a small 25 ha holding supposed to do ? Fallow a hectare.?

All biased in favour of the big boys again.!!!!
 
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So if I leave a 2m un cultivated strip at the edge of a drain carrying water does this go to efa . Is this considered a valid buffer.
What is a small 25 ha holding supposed to do ? Fallow a hectare.?

All biased in favour of the big boys again.!!!!

Depending on what further info we have- if the drain classes as a watercourse then it should apply, but we need more info
 

DRC

Member
So if I leave a 2m un cultivated strip at the edge of a drain carrying water does this go to efa . Is this considered a valid buffer.
What is a small 25 ha holding supposed to do ? Fallow a hectare.?

All biased in favour of the big boys again.!!!!
I think if your less than 30ha, you don't have to do anything. .
 
I think if your less than 30ha, you don't have to do anything. .

1. Crop diversification
if you have 10 or more hectares of arable land,
you will have to follow the crop diversification rules on the number of
crops you grow and the areas they cover – unless you qualify for an
exemption.


2. Ecological Focus Areas (EFA):

if you have more than 15 hectares of
arable land, you will need ‘Ecological Focus Areas’ – unless you qualify
for an exemption. If you do need Ecological Focus Areas, these will
need to be equivalent to at least 5% of your total arable land.

in England the overall percentage of
permanent grassland – compared to the agricultural area – must not fall
by more than 5%.
 

james7

Member
Location
East Anglia
A few questions regarding buffer strips, if anyone has answers to any of these Qs I would be grateful.

These would not be in any other scheme, so not convertion.

Is a watercourse a ditch which has water all year, can it be a dry ditch part of the year?
Can there be a hedge between the watercourse and the buffer strip?
What are the min/max width of the buffer?
Will I be able to run a tractor over it during the year?
Will I be able to cut it to stop weeds dropping seed?
Can it have a public footpath run along it?

Thanks in advance.
 
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Robigus

Member
A few questions regarding buffer strips, if anyone has answers to any of these Qs I would be grateful.

These would not be in any other scheme, so not convertion.

Is a watercourse a ditch which has water all year, can it be a dry ditch part of the year?
Can there be a hedge between the watercourse and the buffer strip?
What are the min/max width of the buffer?
Will I be able to run a tractor over it during the year?
Will I be able to cut it to stop weeds dropping seed?
Can it have a public footpath run along it?

Thanks in advance.
I think these are some of the finer details that should be cleared up in an announcement in "early August"
 

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