Amazon Condor

i am surprised that there aren't more these about

We looked at this drill with a local dealer as drawings but the suggested price was very expensive for what you get compared to other options that effectively do the same. If budget is not a priority then take a look though as it looked to be a great bit of kit. Supposed to be available for 2015.
 

Mr Mole

Member
Location
Suffolk
Trouble is any large drill is very expensive,for us drilling cover crops then main crop so I would be drilling around 3000ac a season the choice is limited.i haven't seen a 12 m dd drill on the market in this country,we have a 8m seedhawk but can't cover the area in sensible time.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Trouble is any large drill is very expensive,for us drilling cover crops then main crop so I would be drilling around 3000ac a season the choice is limited.i haven't seen a 12 m dd drill on the market in this country,we have a 8m seedhawk but can't cover the area in sensible time.

12m horsch and Dale available
 

Mr Mole

Member
Location
Suffolk
We looked at the 12m dale ,couldn't make our mind up as only one had been built and was built by the farm who brought it.and very expensive ,with have run Horsch drills for many years they tend to move a lot of soil even when you change to Bougaut point system,very good drills though.
 

Richard Smyth

Member
Arable Farmer
Horsch do a drill with very sililiar openers and leg press wheel setup to that amazone. They look like they are out of the same factory. Sprinter nt. No idea if it folds narrow for European roads though. They are putting a push on here with them and we will be looking at the 18 meter drill when time comes to change in a few years.

Richard
 

York

Member
Location
D-Berlin
Trouble is any large drill is very expensive,for us drilling cover crops then main crop so I would be drilling around 3000ac a season the choice is limited.i haven't seen a 12 m dd drill on the market in this country,we have a 8m seedhawk but can't cover the area in sensible time.
sorry, 3000 ac are just 1250 ha. So most 6 m drills can drill much more and doe it under EU condition.
with a 12 m drill our people, even under adverse conditions, will say: what I'm going to do after lunch now?
We have people which do this area with 4 m drill and are not feeling overworked. The trick is to get some variable seeding days, = autumn & spring seeding and not just WW & OSR.
Or are you just limited to a couple of days? Looking at your region, e4ither you have only garden size fields or I tend to think you are limiting yourself to a to tight rotation. So open you mind, this part between your ea4s. and you will find a way to go. But with the thinking: it will not be possible, forget it.
Only people which follow the approach of "Letting Go" , leave their comfort zone, will find solutions.
York-Th.
 

Fran Loake

Member
BASE UK Member
Location
North Bucks
sorry, 3000 ac are just 1250 ha. So most 6 m drills can drill much more and doe it under EU condition.
with a 12 m drill our people, even under adverse conditions, will say: what I'm going to do after lunch now?
We have people which do this area with 4 m drill and are not feeling overworked. The trick is to get some variable seeding days, = autumn & spring seeding and not just WW & OSR.
Or are you just limited to a couple of days? Looking at your region, e4ither you have only garden size fields or I tend to think you are limiting yourself to a to tight rotation. So open you mind, this part between your ea4s. and you will find a way to go. But with the thinking: it will not be possible, forget it.
Only people which follow the approach of "Letting Go" , leave their comfort zone, will find solutions.
York-Th.

Or buy a nice big drill and be done with it?? :)
 

Mr Mole

Member
Location
Suffolk
I'll look at the Horsch NT , thanks Richard,as we move more towards the DD route York this 3000ac area is going to nearley double with all the cover cropping , I take my hat of to you if you are drilling that area with a 4 m drill but we want to go wide to save a lot of time and fuel I also have a family I want to see I don't want sit in a tractor 16. Hrs a day !! We do have a lot of small fields our average is 10 Ha. So output is hammered with everything. At the end of the day if my boss wants to buy me a 15m drill I'm not going to turn round and say don't worry I'll have a 4m . Haha.
 

York

Member
Location
D-Berlin
I'll look at the Horsch NT , thanks Richard,as we move more towards the DD route York this 3000ac area is going to nearley double with all the cover cropping , I take my hat of to you if you are drilling that area with a 4 m drill but we want to go wide to save a lot of time and fuel I also have a family I want to see I don't want sit in a tractor 16. Hrs a day !! We do have a lot of small fields our average is 10 Ha. So output is hammered with everything. At the end of the day if my boss wants to buy me a 15m drill I'm not going to turn round and say don't worry I'll have a 4m . Haha.
Now, that changes the direction in view quite a bit. If it's not my money I will not question this.
I didn't mean that a 4 m is the solution for you, it's the other side of the coin to a 12 m unit.
So you say you are the only one who does the drilling?
I wonder how good a 12 m unit is operating on the average of 10 ha fields anyway. I only see that our big farms, ok we are talking here on 2000+ ha single units, have always besides a big drill, like a 9 m unit also a smaller one for the odd sized fields.
York-Th.
 
Location
Cambridge
I'll look at the Horsch NT , thanks Richard,as we move more towards the DD route York this 3000ac area is going to nearley double with all the cover cropping , I take my hat of to you if you are drilling that area with a 4 m drill but we want to go wide to save a lot of time and fuel I also have a family I want to see I don't want sit in a tractor 16. Hrs a day !! We do have a lot of small fields our average is 10 Ha. So output is hammered with everything. At the end of the day if my boss wants to buy me a 15m drill I'm not going to turn round and say don't worry I'll have a 4m . Haha.
Horsch Pronto NT is plain triple disc drill
 

Mr Mole

Member
Location
Suffolk
We had some mixed results Richard, cover crops have come up very well nice and even as we moved into the OSR and the coulter tips had worn depth became uneven as the point lost its width but not length ,we hope to have it back from Amazon to drill wheat through some of our knee high cover crops.for us we are only just starting the DD route so our ground has a long way to go in getting the high levels of OGM needed for this type of drill,hopefully Amazon will work with us to make a drill which the UK will like it's nearly there but not quiet.
 

York

Member
Location
D-Berlin
We had some mixed results Richard, cover crops have come up very well nice and even as we moved into the OSR and the coulter tips had worn depth became uneven as the point lost its width but not length ,we hope to have it back from Amazon to drill wheat through some of our knee high cover crops.for us we are only just starting the DD route so our ground has a long way to go in getting the high levels of OGM needed for this type of drill,hopefully Amazon will work with us to make a drill which the UK will like it's nearly there but not quiet.
well said.
Wish you good results.
York-Th.
 

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