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Contractor charges tax deductible anyway so no benefitif you were to pay to have a field drilled to see how it worked on your farm I don't see why that wouldn't be R&D ?
Contractor charges tax deductible anyway so no benefitif you were to pay to have a field drilled to see how it worked on your farm I don't see why that wouldn't be R&D ?
I don't think there is an official importer, PW are "product specialists" AFAIK (same as @York )who is then ? surely promotion of the product should be the responsibility of whoever gets commission on Uk sales ? and surely those potential sales are worthy of a little investment ?
Virtually nothing. 750a is European version of an 1890. 750 was the original american design and they changed it a little.
I am out. Too much going on to do this as well. There are five 750a in Kent and one CS. If someone asks tom I am sure he may be interested but he is still getting used to using the drill, his first season. Saw it working yesterday. I don't see the point of doing a trial in ideal conditions as I doubt you will see any difference. You want to work in conditions that are going to test them and see if CS has an advantage. My thoughts.
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if thats the case then, there are 4 CS owners in the US who have previously had JD drills prior to going for a CS. One farmer even had a new one on order but cancelled the order for a CS toolbar. Those people are JD loyal as they had JD combines, tractors and sprayers on their farm. One farmer even has a brother who used to work for JD specializing on drills. So there must be advantages of CS vs JD drills.
Unfortunately none of these guys are on TFF, so you will just need to trust me, but as mentioned by Clive and David there would have to have been some yield/cost advantages to switch to CS
So there must be advantages of CS vs JD drills.
in the USA maybe yes as in NZ or Aus maybe ................ in the UK there is simply no data to compare unless someone does this trail
in the Uk there is no advantage in the extra coulter travel a CS offers IMO a 750a is more than enough for our level fields, likewise I don't think individual coulter pressure control offers much in UK consistent soils on mostly very level ground
however we wont know any of this if a CS is never run against a JD will we so it will always have to sell itself in the UK on a unquantifiable promise, that's a big ask given the cost
No, in Kent. What do I think? Jury is out. Like clive has said I need to see trial data to see the benefits in the UK. My 17 year old £11k drill plus add ons is in good nick. Not sure what a £100k drill plus new bigger tractor would benefit my situation. I am looking forward to seeing how Tom gets on.Hi
what were your thoughts? Is this the one in Worcestershire?
There are several direct drilling trials running locally to me and they are all wrong, in what they set out to achieve,
It's either a comparison of strip till machines , disc drill pulled out , or no consistency of plot.
What we need is a 5 year trial with cover crops and no till , versus local farm standard, eg plough, etc, Deep non inversion,replicated on several large plots
It should include organic matter measurement and soil porosity, along with full costing s for operation,
It should be on heavy soil , which is regarded as the hardest to direct drill,
It should be managed by a cadre of interested parties
To be honest running a trial on Clives light soil wont answer many questions unless the question is can I direct drill light soils, and retain moisture, as Clive is showing,
Having seen the cross slot work I doubt you would see much difference on a decent year , however what you need is the confidence to drill the correct crop at the right time , if you can do this with a JD then fine, CS market there machine by saying running cost and ability to seed any where are there main objectives ,with little adjustments, ( just look T the additions all of the serious direct drillers have added to their JDs)
If James and his Dad want to sell more machines they need to get them out there, and it seems to me they are doing just that , lots of acres compared to standard farm practice , Jake Freestone has much on his blogs, you tube etc,
I don't think a JD vs CS trial is worthwhile.
No trial is going to satisfy everyone, but saying that doing it on light land is pointless is just silly. Yes a 5yr (or 10 or 15) would be great, but putting off large farm decisions for so long is not plausible.
After I visited CS I did a little calculation and found that I would need something like a 3% yield increase to pay for the drill and tractor. But if one then thinks that there will only be a benefit in tricky conditions, the numbers alter. Let's imagine that 25% of drilling is done in sub-optimal conditions, in that case I need a 12% yield increase.
This now starts to get in to the realms of where we should be able to see differences of that magnitude.
Personally I would like to have a trial after animals grazed covers into heavier type land, as this is where I see the potential benefit in lying.
But that is not to say there is no value in testing it in normal conditions too, as a benefit here would be at least equally as important.
Hmmm, is that rambly enough???
Sorry,in the USA maybe yes as in NZ or Aus maybe ................ in the UK there is simply no data to compare unless someone does this trail
in the Uk there is no advantage in the extra coulter travel a CS offers IMO a 750a is more than enough for our level fields, likewise I don't think individual coulter pressure control offers much in UK consistent soils on mostly very level ground
however we wont know any of this if a CS is never run against a JD will we so it will always have to sell itself in the UK on a unquantifiable promise, that's a big ask given the cost
sorry, don't understand what you're saying?I don't know why you'd want to put yourself in that potentially stressful position? I don't see that as a resilient proposition which is what we need in crop growing.