Milking liners

jimmer · Oct 23, 2014

A quick calculation based on makers recommendations ,says i should be changing my liners every 64 days

i used to change every six months with no noticeable issues

does everyone stick to recommendations

snowhite · Oct 23, 2014

jimmer said:
A quick calculation based on makers recommendations ,says i should be changing my liners every 64 days

i used to change every six months with no noticeable issues

does everyone stick to recommendations

no we do like you ,

Blue. · Oct 23, 2014

jimmer said:
A quick calculation based on makers recommendations ,says i should be changing my liners every 64 days

i used to change every six months with no noticeable issues

does everyone stick to recommendations

I usually wait for one to split then replace them all,chap with 2000 milking with 48 machines must be changing liners on a daily basis.

Exfarmer · Oct 23, 2014

well the manufacturers do have a good reason for making their recommendations,
after all they test them etc. and want their customers to have good results

oh and want to sell plenty

but of course every situation is different not only milking numbers and times , hot and cold washing etc.
how do they look when you change them is more important

Ballygreenan · Oct 23, 2014

jimmer said:
A quick calculation based on makers recommendations ,says i should be changing my liners every 64 days

i used to change every six months with no noticeable issues

does everyone stick to recommendations

I change mine every six months, even though I probably don't need to. If you've worked out yours need changed at 64 days, how about every 3 months? Having said that if you're not noticing high SCC's, increased cases of mastitis or liner slip, then you could probably get away with every 6 months.

Princess Pooper · Oct 23, 2014

We've worked ours out and about every 6 months is right for us. Does your farm assurance inspection not check you've about got it right?

jimmer · Oct 23, 2014

had one split on monday which made me think about how often i should be changing , last changed end of may
exactly as most have said if there isnt a problem then dont need to change , farm assurance ask for dates but never do any maths
i think big rotaries change a few sets once a week till they are all done then start at stall 1 again

buffalo_soldier · Oct 23, 2014

Block calving here so I put fresh ones in about September as cow numbers are going up.
Change them about Feb after about 5 months ish as yields are steadying and cow numbers start dropping in may.

Monty · Oct 23, 2014

Every 9 months/ 3000 milkings here. This last batch has been quite poor and had 3 split and 1 ripped at the end but normally we rarely get a split liner.

Blue. · Oct 23, 2014

Monty said:
Every 9 months/ 3000 milkings here. This last batch has been quite poor and had 3 split and 1 ripped at the end but normally we rarely get a split liner.

The worst liners I've had were from waikato,they split after a few months,some batches are better than others.

jimmer · Oct 23, 2014

use genuine westfalia here , yes they are a bit more expensive than copies but the last lot of non genuine i had were ever so slightly different in length and the cupping end had a shallower recess so they pulled off the shells easier when kicked off ,

anyone using triangular liners or ones with bleed holes in each individual one , saw some at the dairy show and couldnt make up my mind about them

whynot2 · Oct 23, 2014

change ADF ones after 1800-2000 milkings, costs a fortune but we do seem to get problems when they arnt changed when they should. Pre ADF was twice a year but that was before 3x aswell

newholland · Oct 23, 2014

Use silclear liners and shells here and for years we have only ever changed a liner when it actualy splits which is not often. This was the 1st advice given by company years ago. I have never changed a full set of liners. We dont seem to have an issue with anything cow wise? what am I missing?

Buy a few spare liners, put invoice in red tractor file and provide chocolate cake and tea at that momment?

bobk · Oct 23, 2014

buffalo_soldier said:
Block calving here so I put fresh ones in about September as cow numbers are going up.
Change them about Feb after about 5 months ish as yields are steadying and cow numbers start dropping in may.

This is excellent advice , re new your liners when the cows are most susceptible to mastitis .

jimmer · Oct 27, 2014

right so the new liners have arrived

now i have changed many many liners in my time and every time i do it i always seem to try a different technique that doesnt involve either cutting myself wrenching my shoulder sockets out or generally getting pee'd off with the job half way through

any long standing techniques out there that i can try myself

multi power · Oct 27, 2014

i have just done some maths, liners should be changed every 96 days to fit in with every 2400 milkings, last changed in april, normaly change them every 6 months, genuine de laval this time, the last (non genuine) set wernt quite the right length, it was decided to get better quality n change slightly less often, never had any split this time, noticed last couple of weeks they are coming off the shells if they get kicked n stood on so im thinking to have a go at pulling then tighter

as for changing them the easy way, keep everything dry n have a sharp knife to cut the old ones off

Blue. · Oct 27, 2014

jimmer said:
right so the new liners have arrived

now i have changed many many liners in my time and every time i do it i always seem to try a different technique that doesnt involve either cutting myself wrenching my shoulder sockets out or generally getting pee'd off with the job half way through

any long standing techniques out there that i can try myself

I generally do a few at once and work my way round over a few days,the type I use are very tight to fit through the shell,so I use pliers to pull the 1st bit through.

Always cut the old ones off but generally save a couple of sets from the back machines as spares,old liners are great to use as fire lights for the wood burner

snowhite · Oct 27, 2014

sometimes i just cut the old ones and pop in the new , not a job i like

alan6430 · Oct 27, 2014

Our local milking parlour fitters have a deal that if you buy liners from them they change them for u, suits me

Dr. Alkathene · Oct 27, 2014

We change ours every 6 months. Change them all in one mad swoop.

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