Statement of significance for listed farmhouse..

Farmer Rich

Member
Location
Worcestershire
we are currently exploring the idea of refurbishing our grade 2 listed farmhouse. we want to make it comfortable to live in again as it is looking a bit worse for wear, and would also like to convert some of the surroundings buildings into short term accommodation.
before any of this starts we need a statement of significance to be drawn up. can anyone recommend someone who can do this? our local conservation officer is being less than helpful! in or near the Worcestershire area ideally, thanks.
 

renewablejohn

Member
Location
lancs
Really nothing to it you can easily do it yourself and have the satisfaction of knowing the history of your farmhouse. Give me a PM and you can look mine up on the council planning website and use it as a guide.
 

solo

Member
Location
worcestershire
we are currently exploring the idea of refurbishing our grade 2 listed farmhouse. we want to make it comfortable to live in again as it is looking a bit worse for wear, and would also like to convert some of the surroundings buildings into short term accommodation.
before any of this starts we need a statement of significance to be drawn up. can anyone recommend someone who can do this? our local conservation officer is being less than helpful! in or near the Worcestershire area ideally, thanks.
It sounds like conservation officer from wyre forest. I have had run in twice with 2 now over renovating listed 2*. They seem to thrive on making the process drawn out and on their terms.
 
Location
Suffolk
The thing with listed buildings is that the authorities want them to keep their history intact. I don't blame them either. You only have to look in areas where money is not a problem and you will see a big difference to areas where money is and always has been less readily available.
I can think of two areas that I know well; High Wycombe in Buckinghamshire, where there is little left of the original town and in the surrounding countryside many so called listed farmhouses have been so radically altered there is not much of them left. On the opposite end of this spectrum is Lavenham where the whole town is close to being considered for a world heritage listing. I know where I'd rather see old unmolested buildings.
A grade 2* has a listed interior too so extra,extra care has to be taken and why not. Any changes will ruin it forever unless great care and attention to the original detail is kept as the paramount objective!
I'll wait for the howls......
codlasher
 

solo

Member
Location
worcestershire
My main gripe was conservation officer telling me we had to use his spec for patch repairing rendering to the outside of listed building. I specifically wanted to use a local washed sand in the mix so it was a better match to the existing. Outcome was we now have spotted dog look as it doesn't match. At final inspection he told me I needed to use a brick tint to cover up the botch. I refused and told him to pay as it was his fault. Never been resolved and he has since left but we are left with his mark on the building. So whatever they say they don't know it all!
 
Location
Suffolk
My main gripe was conservation officer telling me we had to use his spec for patch repairing rendering to the outside of listed building. I specifically wanted to use a local washed sand in the mix so it was a better match to the existing. Outcome was we now have spotted dog look as it doesn't match. At final inspection he told me I needed to use a brick tint to cover up the botch. I refused and told him to pay as it was his fault. Never been resolved and he has since left but we are left with his mark on the building. So whatever they say they don't know it all!
Mmmm, I'd be fuming!:mad:
SS
 

renewablejohn

Member
Location
lancs
The thing with listed buildings is that the authorities want them to keep their history intact. I don't blame them either. You only have to look in areas where money is not a problem and you will see a big difference to areas where money is and always has been less readily available.
I can think of two areas that I know well; High Wycombe in Buckinghamshire, where there is little left of the original town and in the surrounding countryside many so called listed farmhouses have been so radically altered there is not much of them left. On the opposite end of this spectrum is Lavenham where the whole town is close to being considered for a world heritage listing. I know where I'd rather see old unmolested buildings.
A grade 2* has a listed interior too so extra,extra care has to be taken and why not. Any changes will ruin it forever unless great care and attention to the original detail is kept as the paramount objective!
I'll wait for the howls......
codlasher

Well I can only speak for our authority which is totally incompetent when it comes to Listed buildings. I had a 4 year running battle with our conservation officer to actually restore our grade 2 listed building to something like its original character. Without this dogged determination and the excellent support of English Heritage we would have ended up with a building that was damp and crumbling from the inside outwards. What annoyed me most was having to train the conservation officer in the historical building techniques in particular how glazing used to be installed direct into stone mullions using lime mortar.
 
Location
Suffolk
Well I can only speak for our authority which is totally incompetent when it comes to Listed buildings. I had a 4 year running battle with our conservation officer to actually restore our grade 2 listed building to something like its original character. Without this dogged determination and the excellent support of English Heritage we would have ended up with a building that was damp and crumbling from the inside outwards. What annoyed me most was having to train the conservation officer in the historical building techniques in particular how glazing used to be installed direct into stone mullions using lime mortar.
I think you have used the right term of phrase with 'dogged'. i was lucky in some respects that I had dealings the same fellow for thirty odd years and although we had 'differences of opinion' in certain situations I still think there was mutual respect flowing between both of us. I'm creating tomorrows 'listed building':whistle: right now.........Mmmmm
SS
 

renewablejohn

Member
Location
lancs
My main gripe was conservation officer telling me we had to use his spec for patch repairing rendering to the outside of listed building. I specifically wanted to use a local washed sand in the mix so it was a better match to the existing. Outcome was we now have spotted dog look as it doesn't match. At final inspection he told me I needed to use a brick tint to cover up the botch. I refused and told him to pay as it was his fault. Never been resolved and he has since left but we are left with his mark on the building. So whatever they say they don't know it all!

I had similar attitude with conservation officer not allowing me to paint the natural wood guttering with CLEAR yacht varnish to preserve it. Asked what we could use and the conservation officer could not advise. Got onto English Heritage who advised that no preservative would have been used on a farmhouse but high status town houses would use a linseed oil based paint so thats what we ended up doing. Still not approved but there you go.
 

solo

Member
Location
worcestershire
Most recent run in was farm cottage in conservation area. Planner wanted off road parking provided but conservation officer didn't want ancient hedgerow grubbing to create entrance off road! Took a year to get planning. Ancient hedgerow consisted of 80% ivy of 20% dead hawthorn in the end. 12' was all that was removed.
 

renewablejohn

Member
Location
lancs
Dont want to be totally negative towards conservation officers as sometimes there heart is in the right place. Planners wanted our new agricultural building close to the grade 2 listed house to create a settlement. Conservation officer wanted the building 80 mtrs away at the end of a wood so that it did not detract from the Listed Building. I actually agreed with the conservation officer and to the dismay of the planners the building is being built at the end of the wood. Fortunately it was not a decision made by the planners as it went to appeal and the Inspector came down on the side of the conservation officer.
 

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