Mzuri 3m Pro til

rob1

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Location
wiltshire
If you have soil to do it then ploughing and combi drilling by contractors on their fuel is £40/acre around here. Job done and you bury weeds rather than chitting them on the surface again with a strip till drill.
Works well but doing that just chits the weeds you buried last year and the year before instead
 

cosmagedon

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Location
North Wales
These are not no till drills though are they.

That's my point ....... They are a bit pointless!

Far from pointless, with no till it requires a lot of managing what happens on the field to help compaction. If your contracting this is out of your control. I find the front legs on the Mzuri help with this, and its shown in this years stubble turnips where a no till sown crop down the road is looking sad now compared to ours.

As B&B has said its a one pass drill, I spent hours sat on a tractor last year power harrowing 15 acres trying to make a seed bed and then It was combi drilled the next day. This year sowing the turnips I was in and out in a couple of hours.

I just need to refine it for sowing grass and maize then our system is complete (y)
 

6910

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Far from pointless, with no till it requires a lot of managing what happens on the field to help compaction. If your contracting this is out of your control. I find the front legs on the Mzuri help with this, and its shown in this years stubble turnips where a no till sown crop down the road is looking sad now compared to ours.

As B&B has said its a one pass drill, I spent hours sat on a tractor last year power harrowing 15 acres trying to make a seed bed and then It was combi drilled the next day. This year sowing the turnips I was in and out in a couple of hours.

I just need to refine it for sowing grass and maize then our system is complete (y)
I find the Mzuri works well also but I think for S barley a run of a disc in front helps create a bit of tilth, but I do think the cost of replacing metal needs to be adressed
 

Andrew K

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Arable Farmer
Location
Essex
I find the Mzuri works well also but I think for S barley a run of a disc in front helps create a bit of tilth, but I do think the cost of replacing metal needs to be adressed
I found adding a bit of hardfacing under the leading edge of the wings and the front point addressed it in hard conditions.
 

Robh

Member
Dts
No metal changed in 2350 acres will run in spring!
Expect 3000 a out off front legs
Disc just getting nice and sharp
Coulters, who knows looking at them now maybe 4-5000 out of wides and prob same out off narrows.
6m drill on anything from sand to weald clay.
 

6910

Member
Dts
No metal changed in 2350 acres will run in spring!
Expect 3000 a out off front legs
Disc just getting nice and sharp
Coulters, who knows looking at them now maybe 4-5000 out of wides and prob same out off narrows.
6m drill on anything from sand to weald clay.
That's a lot of goin without having to change any wearing parts
But what price are the coulters and front legs and what will cost per acre work out at for metal alone
 

damaged

Member
Location
Gloucestershire
@Robh. That's good going for metal usage, although I think others were referring to drills half as wide as yours. Still 1500acres per 3m sounds better that mzuri. B&Bpigman said somewhere he preferred mzuri with center press wheels to help with tillage on stiffer ground. What do think as you would have experence drilling loads of acres
 

Retraceh

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BASE UK Member
Think we are comparing apples and pears somewhat. The wings on the mzuri do a lot of cultivation in comparison and obviously the point needs to be shaped to hold the wing. If a straight front leg with no wings then wear would be considerably less .
I liked the cultivation aspect of the wings as I apply a lot of muck and would be better for compaction and mixing.
 
Think we are comparing apples and pears somewhat. The wings on the mzuri do a lot of cultivation in comparison and obviously the point needs to be shaped to hold the wing. If a straight front leg with no wings then wear would be considerably less .
I liked the cultivation aspect of the wings as I apply a lot of muck and would be better for compaction and mixing.
+1 - well said. (y)
 

E_B

Member
Location
Norfolk
Think we are comparing apples and pears somewhat. The wings on the mzuri do a lot of cultivation in comparison and obviously the point needs to be shaped to hold the wing. If a straight front leg with no wings then wear would be considerably less .
I liked the cultivation aspect of the wings as I apply a lot of muck and would be better for compaction and mixing.

Also as far as I'm aware, Mzuri are the only manufacturer of a cereal strip drill that touts its ability to plant maize, requiring deeply worked and uncompacted soil. If we ever have one I would be keen to experiment with maize into stubble on light soils to a small degree. I also think that the more intensive tillage provided by the Mzuri makes it more suited for really stiff land, of which we have some which would form the majority of our potential strip till rotation. This land is baled and carted and I would be glad of the extra lift from the wings. Metal wear in comparison to competitors is secondary because unless the wear is out of control, it will still be less than a plough and subsequent harrow passes. Versatility of the drill to get the job done in a variety of conditions is more important to me than how quickly the points wear. I'm assuming a set of leading points doesn't take longer than an afternoon to change? In which case I wouldn't let it influence a purchasing decision.
 

cosmagedon

Member
Location
North Wales
Set of front point could be changed in under a hour. Haven't had to do it yet but it's only one roll pin and tap the point off/on.

I'm going to trial maize at home on one of the smaller fields next year. Put a bit less muck on than we usually do, and just use the rear 5 set of coulters and legs.
 

E_B

Member
Location
Norfolk
Set of front point could be changed in under a hour. Haven't had to do it yet but it's only one roll pin and tap the point off/on.

I'm going to trial maize at home on one of the smaller fields next year. Put a bit less muck on than we usually do, and just use the rear 5 set of coulters and legs.

Please do show us how you get on with that, would be very interesting to see. Along with @B&B Pig Man's thread on wet clay it'll show the drill in a good range of conditions and situations.
 

farmgrant

Member
Cosmagedon

I notice in the video on your facebook link that you're pulling yours with 175 HP. Do you find that's adequate, or would 200 be better?
 

cosmagedon

Member
Location
North Wales
The 175 has handled it well so far. Once drilling one of our heaviest fields during that long dry spell it was pulling it down when I hit the tramlines, so I went down a gear and when sowing grass straight after maize whilst it was raining I was spinning going up a bank so had to reverse up and sow in one direction. I still managed to drill everything, you just have to adapt to the conditions. Most of the time I travel between 8 and 12kph and the front legs in 4-5" :)
 

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