How soon can I spray glyphosate on oats to ripen them?

[Thick Farmer]

I've got a field of oats that is starting to change colour (ripen). I'd like to get it off the field so I can get another crop in.

I wondered if there would be any further grain fill now that it's going yellow. If not I assume I can spray it off without affecting yield too much. I will be applying glyphosate anyway to kill the grass that's growing in the oats so thought I might be able to bring harvest forward a bit too.

What are the pros and cons of doing this?

 

[SilliamWhale]

Spring oats? I'd wait a bit yet. 20th July earliest

 

[multi power]

If you want to crimp them they don't need to be ripe. Maybe 2 weeks earlier harvest

 

[Thick Farmer]

Spring oats? I'd wait a bit yet. 20th July earliest

They're the oats that self seeded after last years spring oats went flat so don't know weather to call them winter or spring!

I was going to plough them in, but it looked too good to do that in the spring so I thought I'd see how it turned out...

 

[ridger]

They're the oats that self seeded after last years spring oats went flat so don't know weather to call them winter or spring!

I was going to plough them in, but it looked too good to do that in the spring so I thought I'd see how it turned out...

Photo please

 

[multi power]

They're the oats that self seeded after last years spring oats went flat so don't know weather to call them winter or spring!

I was going to plough them in, but it looked too good to do that in the spring so I thought I'd see how it turned out...

so zero tillage n you didnt even need a fancy expencive direct drill

 

[mikep]

I've got a field of oats that is starting to change colour (ripen). I'd like to get it off the field so I can get another crop in.

I wondered if there would be any further grain fill now that it's going yellow. If not I assume I can spray it off without affecting yield too much. I will be applying glyphosate anyway to kill the grass that's growing in the oats so thought I might be able to bring harvest forward a bit too.

What are the pros and cons of doing this?

With other cereals it is I believe usually done at 30% moisture or when you could only just mark the grains with your nails. Oats being a covered seed I think you had best use a moisture meter. Its a very good method in a weedy crop but two points. Firstly it kills the seed so dont try to drill them and secondly some broadleaf crops take ages to dry and are sometimes at the 'soggy' stage when crop ready to combine so can break up and end up in the grain tank. Used this method to control very bad couch infestation that we inherited with the farm.

 

[Thick Farmer]

Photo please

Here's a few pics.

 

[Kevtherev]

Here's a few pics.

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Why don't you whole crop them now and put in pit? Be lovely stuff or sell it to local dairy farmer?
Direct cut header on self propelled.

 

[multi power]

far too green for crimping, i asked the lad who crimps here n he said oats very difficult to crimp, maybe caustic soda could be an option, no good to store in grain silo but could combine sooner n also rats wont eat it

 

[slaney]

Here's a few pics.

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Out of interest When you do harvest can you put up what it yields compared to what your crops from other fields did?

 

[Thick Farmer]

Out of interest When you do harvest can you put up what it yields compared to what your crops from other fields did?

Will do.

 

[Thick Farmer]

Out of interest When you do harvest can you put up what it yields compared to what your crops from other fields did?

Finished combining that field today.

I filled two 12 tonne trailers and one 6 tonne trailer with grain and had 89 round bales from 11 acres.

 

[ridger]

It done well then How's 1530 going?

 

[neilo]

With other cereals it is I believe usually done at 30% moisture or when you could only just mark the grains with your nails. Oats being a covered seed I think you had best use a moisture meter. Its a very good method in a weedy crop but two points. Firstly it kills the seed so dont try to drill them and secondly some broadleaf crops take ages to dry and are sometimes at the 'soggy' stage when crop ready to combine so can break up and end up in the grain tank. Used this method to control very bad couch infestation that we inherited with the farm.

It doesn't kill the seed. It can reduce vigour if done too early but it won't normally effect the seed at all if done closer to harvest. Plenty of grain is sown from the heap after pre-harvest Glyphosate.

If in any doubt, you can always get a test done (for vigour, not just a dish on the kitchen window sill germination test).

 

[mikep]

It doesn't kill the seed. It can reduce vigour if done too early but it won't normally effect the seed at all if done closer to harvest. Plenty of grain is sown from the heap after pre-harvest Glyphosate.

If in any doubt, you can always get a test done (for vigour, not just a dish on the kitchen window sill germination test).

Probably rate dependent. we were using higher rates to control couch and there were very few volunteers.