John Deere Hy-Gard

[Robert]

Am baulking at the the price of Hy-gard as its time for a new barrel. I understand the importance of proper oil and in the case of our 2 CVT tractors, don't want to take any risks but is there a different product with the same characteristics and genuine manufacturer assurances, without the expensive green and yellow paint on the drum? Thanks

 

[Partstech]

How much is a barrel of Hy-gard then ?

 

[Robert]

Six hundred and something iirc was the price our guy was given by local dealer.

 

[DrDunc]

Deutz back end oil is the same stuff. I was putting hygard in mine (agrotrons) because the jd stealer is closest.

Bought a barrel of Deutz just before lambing. £380 (plus an hour's drive to get it)

 

[Partstech]

What JD spec has it got to meet ?(should say on your old barrel) usually J 20 A&C or J20 B&D, or am I being presumptious, and you`re actually not putting it in a JD.

 

[loamiest spy]

we use witham oils wbto in back end of tractors , never had problems ,speak to your oil company

auto power has 10041 hours on not had any problems ,and other tractors up to 14000 hours on witham oils ,
jd mf case nh all buy oils from different blenders like witham or morris etc ,as long its up to spec makes no odds whats printed on drums

 

[Mad Farmer]

We use Morris JDF Liquimatic. Seems pretty good.

 

[grumpy]

fer the luv of god when will folks learn tractor makers dont make oil they farm it out to all the oil manufacturers then go with cheapest deal and stick a jd badge or fergie badge on drum.tis the spec that counts not some stupid name like hy gard.

 

[Ivor Cornfield]

allways used suto int backend of our deeres.

can someone explain what hyguard does differently to a universal? is it more for the uptodate machines that perhaps pump oil differently to anything else, and what happens when it gets mixed through contamination from other implements with oil in them?

 

[yorkie]

it costs a lot to put branded colour and picture on drums,is free for oil companys

 

[dunkie]

Your JD dealer will do a deal on oil, just ask.

 

[grumpy]

it costs a lot to put branded colour and picture on drums,is free for oil companys

now that is nail on head

 

[Bumble Bee]

We get our oil from our fuel supplier. They either send Gulf or Shell. I might be wrong, but I think GL-4 is the equivalent grade too HY-Guard.
I cannot remember the exact price off the top of my head, but I think that it was in the £300's. Definitely not the £600's. They are having a laugh.

 

[Ivor Cornfield]

Exactly.

 

[brynseiri]

I was quoted three years ago three hundred quid for a forty five gallon of hygard, and things oil wise are not that much more expensive today- someone is pulling your plonker somewhere. There was only a tenner difference between hy gard and my local oil supplier at the time.

 

[Qman]

John Deere Hygard is made by Shell and their equivalent is Shell Spirax S4 TXM.
Hygard can be bought for £455 per barrel with a free box of JG grease from my local JD dealer.

Shop around and buy the correct oil, I think it is JD20C spec. I would not use a universal oil.

 

[Partstech]

You should be able to buy an equivilent for less than £400.

 

[Qman]

For decent stuff I'm not too sure. I recently bought a barrel of Shell Rimula RT4L for £400, the JD Plus 50 11 was £430; these are similar specs and I reckon they are the same.
The UTTO oils are usually a little dearer, so £455 for Hygard doesn't seem too bad, I do not know how much the Shell Spirax S4 TXM is.

Why have Shell renamed their oils to such silly names? The red grease I use is now Gadus S2V220AC2, what a mouthful and not too easy to remember. (Don't ask why I like red grease, I just do!)

 

[grumpy]

For decent stuff I'm not too sure. I recently bought a barrel of Shell Rimula RT4L for £400, the JD Plus 50 11 was £430; these are similar specs and I reckon they are the same.
The UTTO oils are usually a little dearer, so £455 for Hygard doesn't seem too bad, I do not know how much the Shell Spirax S4 TXM is.

Why have Shell renamed their oils to such silly names? The red grease I use is now Gadus S2V220AC2, what a mouthful and not too easy to remember. (Don't ask why I like red grease, I just do!)

why you like red grease?mind you grease is differing spec too font of all knowledge?

 

[Qman]

Me just like red grease, it is also a better spec and is recommended for JDs on the Shell site. http://lubematch.shell.com/search.php?site=58&region=274&language=5&brand=109