New Holland CR11 Combine - 137 t/hr !!

Flatlander

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Arable Farmer
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Lorette Manitoba
Alright; how do you continue when the biggest capacity combine In the world catches fire, and the support machine new Holland can offer you is a much smaller machine. Putting all your eggs in one basket springs to mind
Exactly. Plus is the dealership going to carry the parts needed when this super size combine that’s not commonplace goes tits up. Same as buying a claas in Canada ten years ago. Not fir the faint hearted
 
Should we run a poll for who will make the first 12???

I think going by sales they have hit the threshold on size and price.

Deeres biggest seller is the 780, fendt is the 9.

At a guess id say case would be 8250.

The real engineering war should be qaulity, capacity, price from now on.

Ant...
 

Two Tone

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Mixed Farmer
Should we run a poll for who will make the first 12???

I think going by sales they have hit the threshold on size and price.

Deeres biggest seller is the 780, fendt is the 9.

At a guess id say case would be 8250.

The real engineering war should be qaulity, capacity, price from now on.

Ant...
NH’s biggest selling range is the TC’s, which out-sells more than twice all the other rages added together.
To my mind, this means they deserve far more attention than the 11.90.
 
NH’s biggest selling range is the TC’s, which out-sells more than twice all the other rages added together.
To my mind, this means they deserve far more attention than the 11.90.
True, but ask marketing and they will beg to differ, like Ferrari and merc in f1, ypu win you sell more cars, even though you not getting the f1 car components...yes its silly.

I hope the attention once the size limit is reached goes back to good fundamentals for the ag market.

Ant...
 

MrNoo

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Arable Farmer
Location
Cirencester
I appreciate what you say.
I suspect that the payment for the new grainstore will come out of a different account, to the one that pays for the finance deal for the combines.Another words money from building land indirectly pays for the long term estate improvement but money generated from the farming business pays for the combines, but to be honest not really any of my business. 😉
I am sure there are a few TFF members that are in a similar financial position but on a smaller scale, and good luck to them.
Well they spanked a rumoured £14m on a local farm that came up so must have a few £££ floating about!!
 

red

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Cirencester Park Farms ( Bathurst estate) have 2 New CNH 10.90 with 45ft Mac Don headers on order for next harvest (2024), to replace 2x Claas 780’s. I am told they thought the Mac Don headers performed better than the Claas equivalent .
Wouldn’t be surprised if they have a CR 11 badged as 10.90, especially as they are slightly under combined with the 2x 780.
Off topic.
They are also having a new 7200 tonne grain store which is on the way to being finished, for harvest’24.
Needless to say it’s amazing what a one off crop of houses can buy, and more building land money to come .
You can’t loose if you own nearly all the potential building land surrounding a town.
That’s the way the cooky crumbles 😉
Especially if you've structured it so that you don't have to pay UK tax, but that's why you partner up with Richard Tice (the offshoring expert)🤔
 

T Hectares

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Arable Farmer
Location
Berkshire
Who is going to buy these machines second hand, in my opinion it will be the 2500 acres operations
Not so sure, I think they are more likely to buy a new CR8.90 or 9.90 with warranty and a better resale market
Unless manufacturers recognise the resale issue and offer attractive finance and warranty to the second user
 

Pilatus

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Location
cotswolds
Are the tacks on the CR 11 wider ( can’t see how they can be to comply with Uk road regulations) or longer , to cover extra area to compensate for that terrific weight???
Has it got “rear wheel assist/drive” as standard to help traction up banks ,
also has it got self levelling sieves as standard as surely a “Must have” on banks , with that volume of grain going over the sieves.
 
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Farma Parma

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Arable Farmer
Location
Northumberlandia
As much as you cant knock progress here this new combine will atm have a limited marketplace surely?
i know of 2 x 10.90's locally one is a few years bought used for this last harvest & the other was new 4 year ago on a decent size estate & they went from claas to the yellow.
another contractor who runs 3 x CR Yellows cant see the return on its extra cost to bother with the 10.90 & runs the model below it.
my neighbour does all my combining now its a 6walker NH CX 24ft cut & we wont go any bigger header anyways, no interest in rotarys to be fair.
If that machine is 50t max weight assuming its full of wheat what was it 18t the tank held? that cant be right can it?
dont fill it up & empty it sooner if conditions aint perfect.
50ft header in uk fields be a sight to see but no use up here
Another neighbour still runs a 30ft claas combine & when he changed got the same size again & he said i can just cope with the trailers now if i go any bigger where does it end.
No one really has been convinced the agco IDEAL in whatever its stickered up as is a competitor thats been proven with both stickers neither is loved it seems.
NH & Claas & Deere are the main brands you see & not saying one is any better than the other here. folk run what they want & its the backup thats poss the deal swinger.
 

Clive

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
As much as you cant knock progress here this new combine will atm have a limited marketplace surely?
i know of 2 x 10.90's locally one is a few years bought used for this last harvest & the other was new 4 year ago on a decent size estate & they went from claas to the yellow.
another contractor who runs 3 x CR Yellows cant see the return on its extra cost to bother with the 10.90 & runs the model below it.
my neighbour does all my combining now its a 6walker NH CX 24ft cut & we wont go any bigger header anyways, no interest in rotarys to be fair.
If that machine is 50t max weight assuming its full of wheat what was it 18t the tank held? that cant be right can it?
dont fill it up & empty it sooner if conditions aint perfect.
50ft header in uk fields be a sight to see but no use up here
Another neighbour still runs a 30ft claas combine & when he changed got the same size again & he said i can just cope with the trailers now if i go any bigger where does it end.
No one really has been convinced the agco IDEAL in whatever its stickered up as is a competitor thats been proven with both stickers neither is loved it seems.
NH & Claas & Deere are the main brands you see & not saying one is any better than the other here. folk run what they want & its the backup thats poss the deal swinger.

what was (painfully) clear at Agritechnica is that the UK is a VERY small part of the market

there will be farms that run these machines in the uk ……… but in other countries there will be units running more in one field that the entire annual uk sales reckon !
 

Farma Parma

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Arable Farmer
Location
Northumberlandia
what was (painfully) clear at Agritechnica is that the UK is a VERY small part of the market

there will be farms that run these machines in the uk ……… but in other countries there will be units running more in one field that the entire annual uk sales reckon !
i know this Clive were tiny i get all of that.
getting smaller the more houses we build & less we are able to produce with GOV policy now also. & the bloody weather !!
The German show looked v good when you watch everyone elses videos n pics mind
 

Pilatus

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Location
cotswolds
what was (painfully) clear at Agritechnica is that the UK is a VERY small part of the market

there will be farms that run these machines in the uk ……… but in other countries there will be units running more in one field that the entire annual uk sales reckon !
Agreed. Unfortunately although some realise the world doesn’t begin and end with our small island called the UK, there are many that haven’t travelled very much and can’t get their head round how big the planet is for the sales of every product mankind makes however big or small.
 

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