Soon be Moisture Meter fettling time..

johnbean

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Arable Farmer
Location
South Lincs
The original grinders (Spong) are no longer available but a small hand powered coffee grinder available in many cookshops will do the job nicely.

Best not use an electric grinder as these tend to heat the sample - which is not what you want.
Regards
Nigel
We have a Marconi moisture meter in need of repair, how do we make contact?
Regards
Tim
If you have a Marconi Moisture Meter that needs spares or repair - please get in touch and we can help.
Ideal time before things get busy.
Advice is always free.
We can offer meters for sale as well - still the best investment on the farm for ruggedness/repeatability and reliability - you won’t do better than Marconi.
With 45+ years experience we can offer servicing/calibration to original makers spec plus supply of refurbed and spares for all versions.
Good Morning Lodekka.
I have tried phoning without success so wondered if you could make contact.
I have a 933A in need of repairs if you can help. My contact details are 07909 69 77 88
OR office @willowtreefarms.co.uk
Regards
John markillie
 

johnbean

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
South Lincs
If you have a Marconi Moisture Meter that needs spares or repair - please get in touch and we can help.
Ideal time before things get busy.
Advice is always free.
We can offer meters for sale as well - still the best investment on the farm for ruggedness/repeatability and reliability - you won’t do better than Marconi.
With 45+ years experience we can offer servicing/calibration to original makers spec plus supply of refurbed and spares for all versions.
Good Morning Lodekka,
I have 933A Marconi in need of attention and have tried to phone without success so could you ring on 07909 69 77 88 to discuss please or e mail office @willowtreefarms.co.uk
Kind regards
John Markillie
 

Lodekka

Member
Good Morning Lodekka.
I have tried phoning without success so wondered if you could make contact.
I have a 933A in need of repairs if you can help. My contact details are 07909 69 77 88
OR office @willowtreefarms.co.uk
Regards
John markillie
Good Morning John,

Thanks for the enquiry, sorry you haven't been able to reach me by phone. We might just need to confirm the number is correct - it did change quite a while back.

My current number is 07369 208509.

Certainly happy to help you with your TF933A meter.
I can provide repairs and calibration as well as spares and other things such as scales/charts and handbook scans if required.

Let me know what you need or if there is a problem I can help with.

Look forward to hearing from you.
Regards
Nigel
 

Lodekka

Member
Hi,
I am happy to try to offer some advice.

This will be a silver grey model from that date - one of the largest group of these meters still in use with many farms and mills/agents.

As with all things, condition and completeness is paramount..
I'll assume it is a battery powered model (not a mains conversion).

It has a complete ie. not broken or split, carry strap handle.
Likewise the rubber gasket around the scale/internal meter window is not perished or split.
The casing is not dented or deformed in any way.

Assuming the meter is complete with all its accessories and the casing is not badly corroded if any batteries have leaked.
The accessories should comprise the following items...
  • The G clamp assembly c/w rear stand (both hinge out part and lower bar).
    • Also assuming the clamp is not bent or twisted (can happen if it has been left done up tight for a long period - not recommended.
    • Still has its compression cell and ball swivel at the bottom of the threaded section.
  • The Electrode assembly, of three parts, comprising the Electrode, a ring and the plunger
  • An interconnecting lead, in good condition with all 4 terminals complete.
  • The user manual booklet
  • The instruction card
  • A perspex scale slide, usually A3 for Wheat/Barley etc. or A4 for Tick Bean. It may be an ISO712 scale if it was updated later.
  • Any additional scales or charts etc.
I would suggest a photograph of the actual meter and accessories will go a long way to help any prospective purchaser.

With regard to value, this is very subjective.
A complete, assumed fully working, meter is worth about £25 as is, assuming it just requires calibration.
There are very few like this - they all need something doing on them due to age/condition etc.
Any work or missing parts unfortunately reduces the values to between £10-15 at most, as the amount of work required to restore it is largely unknown.
A fully restored and calibrated meter with all accessories is worth about £100 as it is in ready to go condition ... Calibration add a fair amount of value.

There are some meters advertised currently on eBay, but the sellers have unfortunately over inflated idea's of price.
And they have been there for some time and not sold - which tells its own story.

You could advertise the meter more widely on a selling forum, or here on TFF (you may need to state your location) to assist people needing to factor in shipping/collection costs etc. You could put the meter in an auction/farm sale and see how it goes.

I do purchase meters for refurbishment from time to time, but as I have large stocks of all parts, i would only offer the basic price of £10.
Sorry about that.

As I said, an image will give me more chance of a fair assessment for you if that helps.

Regards
Nigel

I hope that helps and if you need to know anything more then I am happy to offer any advice.
 

spin cycle

Member
Location
north norfolk
If it’s only worth £10 you might as well just throw it in the bin
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Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
interesting thread this - all the modern tech we have today and it seems something build decades ago is yet to be bettered !

whose up for an autonomous tractor then ? 🤣
 

Lodekka

Member
interesting thread this - all the modern tech we have today and it seems something build decades ago is yet to be bettered !

whose up for an autonomous tractor then ? 🤣
Simple answer...

It works because it is a well engineered instrument, rugged enough to stand the rigours of the farm. Reliable (as is proven here) and most importantly repeatable which many others are not. Therefore it is trusted whereas a lot of other name meters are just not in the same class, either they don't work reliably or give wildly differing readings each time used...

Marconi Meters are the Rolls Royce of moisture measurement and have stood the test of time.

They are still in demand because of this and many are still in use around the world and valued by mills and agents as well as farmers.

There is a saying I often hear, that if it compares to the Marconi on measurement then it is accepted.

Spares and repair work are still available and they can be recalibrated and certified as well as being straightforward to restore - hence they last more than a lifetime.
I'm happy to help anyone who has a question about them.
Hope it helps.
Regards
Nigel
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Simple answer...

It works because it is a well engineered instrument, rugged enough to stand the rigours of the farm. Reliable (as is proven here) and most importantly repeatable which many others are not. Therefore it is trusted whereas a lot of other name meters are just not in the same class, either they don't work reliably or give wildly differing readings each time used...

Marconi Meters are the Rolls Royce of moisture measurement and have stood the test of time.

They are still in demand because of this and many are still in use around the world and valued by mills and agents as well as farmers.

There is a saying I often hear, that if it compares to the Marconi on measurement then it is accepted.

Spares and repair work are still available and they can be recalibrated and certified as well as being straightforward to restore - hence they last more than a lifetime.
I'm happy to help anyone who has a question about them.
Hope it helps.
Regards
Nigel

how old are they now ? 50yrs ?

just amazing that this technology seems to have gone backwards over that time

we have a very expensive NIR machine here that seems to be in need of constant calibration to keep it accurate
 

Lodekka

Member
how old are they now ? 50yrs ?

just amazing that this technology seems to have gone backwards over that time

we have a very expensive NIR machine here that seems to be in need of constant calibration to keep it accurate
Marconi first started making Moisture Meters in 1936 - these were mainly for measurement of timber.
So the legacy is almost 90 years.!!

The first grain/crop meters were from the 1940's, although using a slightly different measurement technology.
It was 1949 when the original TF933 model appeared, quickly becoming the 'A' model most of us recognise in 1952 and which sold in HUGE numbers >500,000 worldwide over 15 years and is the most popular model still around.
Although later models (B,C & D) did appear, they were less numerous. But still significant numbers were produced, mainly the C model.
Production finally ceased in the 1990's, spares of all models are still available from me (ex Marconi of 45+ years) and I have the original factory equipment used in their manufacture so calibration is not a problem either.

With care and keeping the meter clean and dry when not in use means they could last easily another 60+ years...
Don't think you'll see that with some other makes.

Hope it helps.
Regards
Nigel
 

An Gof

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Location
Cornwall
how old are they now ? 50yrs ?

just amazing that this technology seems to have gone backwards over that time

we have a very expensive NIR machine here that seems to be in need of constant calibration to keep it accurate

I bought a reconditioned meter from @Lodekka last Year. A real gentleman to deal with and I defy anyone to get a better value for money meter.
I had previously used them over 30 years ago when in the trade and have found myself back where I started. 🤣🤣
I certainly have more faith in the Marconi than the Sinar I have 🤦
 

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