its yourself
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- Scotland, Finland and France.
Many of the Brexit bunch want it. What is it?
All i know is it won't pay the billsMany of the Brexit bunch want it. What is it?
Change foreign powers for cival servents .same sh!t different peopleSovereignty.
The elected government of this country is free to govern this country as it sees fit, in accordance with the wishes of those who voted for it, without intervention by unelected or unaccountable foreign powers.
Hmm. We'll always be dependent on American protection and therefore be dancing to their tune a bit, hence why some of us are worried about The Donald's historical tapes about bombing the sh!t out of "them"Sovereignty.
The elected government of this country is free to govern this country as it sees fit, in accordance with the wishes of those who voted for it, without intervention by unelected or unaccountable foreign powers.
I like this planSovereignty.
The elected government of this country is free to govern this country as it sees fit, in accordance with the wishes of those who voted for it, without intervention by unelected or unaccountable foreign powers.
Change foreign powers for cival servents .same sh!t different people
But we all know they are not advisers ,how many change when we change governments?Who do you replace the government with there all as bad as each other,wanting to be a mp at school should be enough to ban you for life from being one.As Mrs T said, " Advisers advise, ministers decide."
Out of the EU, the buck would stop well and truly with the Minister. No more passing the blame to Brussels, no more "our hands are tied". And if it isn't satisfactory we can vote them out directly. We cannot vote out the EU commissioners, and our representation in the EU Parliament is so small it's powerless to change anything that affects us.
This for me is the reason I will voting OUT. Pure and simple. All the noise about immigration, bent bananas and the rest of it are red herrings and distractions homed in on by the loony fringe.
But we all know they are not advisers ,how many change when we change governments?Who do you replace the government with there all as bad as each other,wanting to be a mp at school should be enough to ban you for life from being one.
and our representation in the EU Parliament is so small it's powerless to change anything that affects us.
It's different things in England and Scotland for a start. England recognises "parliamentary sovereignty" were as Scotland doesn't, it recognises "popular sovereignty" ( the people have the final say not the parliament) hence if there is a "in" vote in Scotland Nicola Sturgeon has the mandate to call another referendum. Wales and NI could be different as well I don't know.
There will be masses of this to unpick as all devolution statutes for Scotland, Wales and NI contain loads of EU laws that will become invalid. So the whole lot could end up having to be renegotiated from scratch.
??? Where do you get that idea?
The U.K. has about 10% of MEP's!
We have more representation than most other member states! Only Germany might have more.
Maybe you should try electing ones that do a better job?
??? Where do you get that idea?
The U.K. has about 10% of MEP's!
We have more representation than most other member states! Only Germany might have more.
Maybe you should try electing ones that do a better job?
Nope.
In a debate in parliament some MPs said Parliament was sovereign - which is an instrument - and other MPs pointed out this was at the will of the people.
BTW I think this thread is just another have a go at the English again.
Europe has it's own Civil Service where policy is formulated.
Europe has it's own parliament where MEPs vote for or against policy - You can watch Nigel Farage voting. It takes a fews seconds using a numbered card like Bingo.
The input from people who actually pay the taxes is Zero, Nada, Nothing.
No member of ANY member state can do anything at all to change the policy - so by definition this is a dictatorship.
Even if one person was able to galvanise enough support to topple a host government and get all the MEPs - then this wouldn't mean anything either because 1 country cannot override the other 27.
Basically the national vote and MPs are a waste of time - this also explains why despite us voting for one party or another they all do pretty much the same thing.
Europe has it's own military. Nation states assets and troops can be taken to implement foreign policy dictated from Brussels. This means the UK taxes paid to create UK armed forces equipment can be taken by the EU for their own purposes.
Personally I think this has fallen not very far from the fruity loopy nutty tree of doom.
That's bollox.
The UK is the second most unrepresented with 875000 head per seat.
Second poorest represented only to France with 886000 residents per mep.
Maybe ours are trying to do what those who bothered to vote for them wants them to do!!!
Given the fact the UK democratically voted in predominately UKIP MEPs then THAT IS the ones we want doing a "Better Job".
Europe has it's own military. Nation states assets and troops can be taken to implement foreign policy dictated from Brussels. This means the UK taxes paid to create UK armed forces equipment can be taken by the EU for their own purposes.
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