National trust

Location
Devon
Assuming you get 1 lamb a ewe reared and take off say 60 head for replacements and sell 420 = £25200 @ £60/ head, + £2500 in cull ewe sales means you will have a total income of £27/28K before you take off all feed/ med cost etc..

It will only stack up if the farm is getting a lot of subs and the tenant gets to keep these subs and they don't go to the NT in lieu of rent.
 

Hilly

Member
Assuming you get 1 lamb a ewe reared and take off say 60 head for replacements and sell 420 = £25200 @ £60/ head, + £2500 in cull ewe sales means you will have a total income of £27/28K before you take off all feed/ med cost etc..

It will only stack up if the farm is getting a lot of subs and the tenant gets to keep these subs and they don't go to the NT in lieu of rent.
And if the farmer was a green keeper 25k plus pension plus holidays plus every other benefit of been employed other than self employed with little responsibility, get the golf course built think of all the other employment as well.
 

ford4000

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
north Wales
Assuming you get 1 lamb a ewe reared and take off say 60 head for replacements and sell 420 = £25200 @ £60/ head, + £2500 in cull ewe sales means you will have a total income of £27/28K before you take off all feed/ med cost etc..

It will only stack up if the farm is getting a lot of subs and the tenant gets to keep these subs and they don't go to the NT in lieu of rent.
Are you going to keep 3.5 ewes an acre there? Especially since they want the best bits grazed less, and the poorer bits grazed more.
 

exmoor dave

Member
Location
exmoor, uk
145 acres plus 720 acres grazing rights


Just bear in mind that if you aren't allowed to improve that 145acs- lime fert etc, you won't be able to actually keep a huge amount of stock on the 720acs grazing.

145ac unimproved is the limiting factor because they have to come on to that to lamb and stay there for a certain time after lambing.

It's also likely that the stock will have to be off the 720acs at other times of the year if the NT insist on variable stocking density through out the year.

They will also have to be tupped on either the hill or the 145ac so I would have thought a lambing percentage of 120-130% would be about tops.


Lots of twin baring ewes on hill grazing would be a problem.


There will be a huge number of conditions in the tenancy.

They tried to let a rather good 500ac farm in Cornwall with loads of conditions.......... The farm ended up split between neighbours and house let separately.
 

MrNoo

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Cirencester
All the "Crag Rats" would put most sane people off the idea, that coupled to the NT would make it a total non starter with anyone with any modicum of common sense. I bet you the NT wouldn't be keen for a coffee shop or suchlike to boost income from the all Crag Rats, 7 days a week, I suspect I'd be locked up for murder after 7 days!!
Lovely views though and I'm sure a stunning place to live.
 

ajcc

Member
Livestock Farmer
Its a great chance for someone who has good experience of shepherding and could generate a subsidary income eg training sheepdogs for sale. Young and adaptable.....no one has a love of sheep but many have a love of working dogs.
The NT will want to retain total control and bps/css income, even down to selecting type and management of stock, the inbye land they will seek to revert to coastal heath, public encouraged to walk free access, the buildings will be removed and replaced with an inadequete stone barn and visitor centre. No supplementary feeding, no avermectin wormers, soil association restrictions etc etc.
Why don't they employ a shepherd? Because they don't like to own their own livestock so they cant be held responsible over cross-compliance etc on a national scale....... I know you know!
 

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