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what would you recomend in my situation
Bought in ewes last year not eae accredited none aborted. Bought sime ewe lambs today not eae accredited ,buying in ewe lambs in two weeks time which are eae accredited.enzovax or not?i was just planning on toxovax but worth doing both?
Only around 50-80
 

GTB

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
We have stopped vaccinating for toxo and enzo due to the staggering cost of doing large numbers. But we don't buy any females in.

If a pregnant ewe gets toxo she will abort and she will also shed the bug to other ewes but any ewe that gets infected will then be immune for life. Many farmers now try to keep their prospective ewe lambs near to a source of infection, usually cats from the nearest village so that they become infected and therefore immune before getting in lamb.

With enzo you do have a get out of jail card in that should your sheep suffer an abortion storm it can be stopped in its tracks by injecting long acting Terramycin to the in lamb ewes every three weeks until they lamb. Unfortunately they never become immune unless vaccinated.

I bet @bovine will be around any second to shoot me down. ;)
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
So worth always vaccinating boight in sheep and replacement ewe lambs?

Are you a gambling man?

Definitely worth doing both if you're buying in any IMO. If you are closed, you might risk not doing Enzovac, but that's the cheap one at about a quid. Toxovax can come in any time, whether it's from your young cats, a neighbouring one, or even some infected cat sh*t in bought in feed. Unfortunately Toxovax is £4.50 or so a shot, so (as posted above) gets to be a scary bill with any number to do. Of course, potential losses are also much greater in bigger flocks too. Just done 180 ewe lambs with Toxovax here.:cry:
 

jemski

Member
Location
Dorset
We have stopped vaccinating for toxo and enzo due to the staggering cost of doing large numbers. But we don't buy any females in.

If a pregnant ewe gets toxo she will abort and she will also shed the bug to other ewes but any ewe that gets infected will then be immune for life. Many farmers now try to keep their prospective ewe lambs near to a source of infection, usually cats from the nearest village so that they become infected and therefore immune before getting in lamb.

With enzo you do have a get out of jail card in that should your sheep suffer an abortion storm it can be stopped in its tracks by injecting long acting Terramycin to the in lamb ewes every three weeks until they lamb. Unfortunately they never become immune unless vaccinated.

I bet @bovine will be around any second to shoot me down. ;)

Toxo isn't spread from ewe to ewe, but enzo is. Toxo is picked up from the environment (mostly via young cat faeces in bedding and hay).

I toxovax, having had a problem here in the past, and have 120 ewe lambs to do next week [emoji383][emoji389][emoji383][emoji33][emoji30][emoji33]
 

jemski

Member
Location
Dorset
It's expensive, but better than dead or unviable lambs at lambing time - so depressing. And I only do them once. It does make me a lot less inclined to cull any ewe lambs once they've been jabbed!
 

Bwcho

Member
Location
Cymru
It's expensive, but better than dead or unviable lambs at lambing time - so depressing. And I only do them once. It does make me a lot less inclined to cull any ewe lambs once they've been jabbed!
I can imagine.
Will have to enquire to see what's the smallest size bottles of toxo and enzo they do.
The biggest dilemma I can foresee for me (apart from paying the bill) would be determining the cut-off point of the ewes age to not vaccine. Got quite a few 3 year olds and wondering whether it would be waste of time/worth doing these or just the ewe lambs / yearlings :sick:

N.B. @Benn - sorry for hijacking the thread. :unsure:
 

GTB

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
Toxo isn't spread from ewe to ewe, but enzo is. Toxo is picked up from the environment (mostly via young cat faeces in bedding and hay).

I toxovax, having had a problem here in the past, and have 120 ewe lambs to do next week [emoji383][emoji389][emoji383][emoji33][emoji30][emoji33]
You're quite right that toxo doesn't spread from ewe to ewe but an infected ewe does shed the disease in her urine and faeces as well as in contaminated afterbirth IIRC. Pretty sure the vets used to advise putting aborted ewes in with dry ewes to avoid infecting other in lamb ewes but also to deliberately infect dry ewes so that they would be immune the following year.
 

jemski

Member
Location
Dorset
When we tested and it came back positive for toxo, I vaccinated everything. Now I just do replacements. It comes in one size bottle, I think it's 10 doses per bottle.
 

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