Scanning %

focussed

Member
Haven't seen a thread for this yet this year...?

I'll start:

NCM and Suf X Theaves: 178%
NCM and Suf X ewes: 202%

The split across the board is 70% suf X.

I am happy with that. Unfortunately got 2 quads to deal with.
 

dazza b

Member
Location
Lancaster
Another disappointing 168% here but on the bright side only 1 geld! Need to concentrate on getting condition off my ewes more [emoji85][emoji848][emoji849]
 
Done 550, 2nd and 3rd crops, 40 odd too soon to tell numbers so barren in per centages, 170 and 174 the two bunches. But bar 1 quad and the inevitable few singles and threes, despite lower than normal a real nice mainly twins scanning, well pleased
 

slaney

Member
I had a lot of empties this year in the early lambers

But the bigger problem is I can't pin it down

Came from mixed ages and different Rams. And as far as I know I did the same as every other year.

It seems as though the ewes were in lamb at some stage but wernt at scannning as we use yellow red blue Radford and only a handful were done with the last raffle blue and these were in lamb
 

Davy Boy

Member
Pedigree Charollais ewes lambing early Jan scanned at 216% in October including 10 sets of triplets and 17 twins. Going to be some crack:unsure:
Have some texel ewes lambing in February scanned at 1.90% but most of these were twins(y)
 

Guiggs

Member
Location
Leicestershire
I had a lot of empties this year in the early lambers

But the bigger problem is I can't pin it down

Came from mixed ages and different Rams. And as far as I know I did the same as every other year.

It seems as though the ewes were in lamb at some stage but wernt at scannning as we use yellow red blue Radford and only a handful were done with the last raffle blue and these were in lamb

Could they have been exposed to something nasty like Toxo/ Enzo?
Not sure at what stage of pregnancy they start aborting but I'd be having a chat with a vet and getting bloods done if I was you...
I had Toxo a couple of years ago...not good!
@bovine ?
 

slaney

Member
Could they have been exposed to something nasty like Toxo/ Enzo?
Not sure at what stage of pregnancy they start aborting but I'd be having a chat with a vet and getting bloods done if I was you...
I had Toxo a couple of years ago...not good!
@bovine ?

If it's toxo I think I'd be too late to act would I?
 

Guiggs

Member
Location
Leicestershire
If it's toxo I think I'd be too late to act would I?

I'd have to look it up but I've got something in the back of my mind saying you can inject them with ABs ?
I could be wrong...I'm sure someone on here will put you straight, speak to your vet in the morning!
I found out after a terrible lambing with lots of dead and aborted lambs,
I vaccinate all retained ewe lambs now.
 

Davy Boy

Member
Pretty sure its only Enzo you can go in with Alamycin LA at a certain stage to try and help.(But I was once wrong),,,,,
I think you are right. AFAIK the Alamycin LA surpresses the bug and allows the ewes to carry long enough for the lambs to be fully developed when born. Think you give the ewe the LA about 2 - 3 weeks before due date. Might be wrong.
 

bovine

Member
Location
North
If it's toxo I think I'd be too late to act would I?

Well, yes. You can't magic up lambs from nowhere, but knowing you have it and putting a plan in place for next year would be wise.

I think you are right. AFAIK the Alamycin LA surpresses the bug and allows the ewes to carry long enough for the lambs to be fully developed when born. Think you give the ewe the LA about 2 - 3 weeks before due date. Might be wrong.

Enzo 'wakes up' from about 90 days of gestation (so has no role in low scanning %). Can use oxytet LA to reduce losses, but it doesn't clear the infection. In an outbreak I'm OK with it, but long term vaccination is the only option. generally around 110 days. Remember anything treated before ~90 days has no effect - need accurate breeding dates
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
I had a lot of empties this year in the early lambers

But the bigger problem is I can't pin it down

Came from mixed ages and different Rams. And as far as I know I did the same as every other year.

It seems as though the ewes were in lamb at some stage but wernt at scannning as we use yellow red blue Radford and only a handful were done with the last raffle blue and these were in lamb

Whilst it might be worth doing some bloods to investigate, if only to rule out anything for which you could do something next year, I've spoken to several early lambing flocks (mostly Dec) that had more empties and a lower %age than normal. Scanners have told the same story. Our own early mob where just the same, for no good reason, which is why I only lambed 64 last week, where I'd normally do around 100.

My earlies on get one chance of the ram, then drop back to lamb in March. Those same ewes took the ram very quickly in October, and with only 3 returns marked after 17 days. Mine are vaccinated against Toxo, all bar the shearlings were vaccinated against Enzo and the yearlings are all vaccinated against Campylobacter, so covered pretty well all bases for infectious causes here. All were treated for known TE deficiencies and kept very calm for several weeks after mating (AI and natural service).

Just one of those years?:scratchhead:
 

reverand

Member
Location
East lancs hills
Whilst it might be worth doing some bloods to investigate, if only to rule out anything for which you could do something next year, I've spoken to several early lambing flocks (mostly Dec) that had more empties and a lower %age than normal. Scanners have told the same story. Our own early mob where just the same, for no good reason, which is why I only lambed 64 last week, where I'd normally do around 100.

My earlies on get one chance of the ram, then drop back to lamb in March. Those same ewes took the ram very quickly in October, and with only 3 returns marked after 17 days. Mine are vaccinated against Toxo, all bar the shearlings were vaccinated against Enzo and the yearlings are all vaccinated against Campylobacter, so covered pretty well all bases for infectious causes here. All were treated for known TE deficiencies and kept very calm for several weeks after mating (AI and natural service).

Just one of those years?:scratchhead:
What ewes are you tupping early
 

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