'If' my beans are too thin.

Grass And Grain

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Yorks
Think I've got the opposite problem to @Mr Charisma.

Possibly fine in some areas of the field, but very thin stand in other parts.

Any suggestions of anything to help the thin areas? Can I promote tillers?
 

Jon

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Location
South Norfolk
Well I cannot keep crows from thinning mine.
Gas bangers, rope bangers and me trying to spice those up with lead.

I will have to patch drill with the tine drill in the spring, if agronomist says to.
 

Andrew K

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Arable Farmer
Location
Essex
Well I cannot keep crows from thinning mine.
Gas bangers, rope bangers and me trying to spice those up with lead.

I will have to patch drill with the tine drill in the spring, if agronomist says to.
What sort of establishment method Jon?
 

Jon

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Location
South Norfolk
Discaerator, then tine drill set at max depth, beans roughly at 3 inches deep, then a roll as it was very dry, we wanted to improve the cloddy finish to help in our fight against blackgrass.
 

Oat

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Location
Cheshire
Discaerator, then tine drill set at max depth, beans roughly at 3 inches deep, then a roll as it was very dry, we wanted to improve the cloddy finish to help in our fight against blackgrass.
Personally, I wouldn't have rolled, as I don't think beans like compaction. However, you definitely did right to do something to break down the clods for (hopefully) better herbicide activity, I would have used a light harrow or something similar.
 

Grass And Grain

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Yorks
Size 11 wellies for the scale. Worst where they've struggled on the lighter areas. Ploughed in ( maybe too deep?).

First photo shows one of the poor parts. Crows took a few, but they aren't bothering them now.

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Grass And Grain

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Yorks
If weed free 6-9 plants /sq m will b ok

Might just have 6 / Sq m on the sandy patches, but some tiny blw there as well. Hopefully get away with most of the field.

On another note. Nvz, so can't put fym on before pulses. If sowing a cover crop between harvest and beans, anyone know if it's permissible to spread fym before the cover crop, is that within the rules?
 

Oat

Member
Location
Cheshire
Look fine, give them a few months and they will look good and hopefully will have lots of pods per plant

Have you sprayed clomazone or imazamox on them?, there looks to be a bit of bleaching. It should just be temporary and they will soon outgrow it
 
too early to decide
if they are too thin in march then spray off and plant spring

I have some where I am not sure but have plenty of hs seed to make a late decision
if there is any amount of bg then it is easy to start again as seed is cheaper than rampant bg and spring beans need less fungicide and may achieve a higher price
 

Grass And Grain

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Yorks
Well you are all filling me with confidence anyway (not said sarcastically).

They grew too well last year. Then we struggled with disease, although still managed 2t. Therefore, I reduced the seed rate a bit this year and was worried I'd over done it.

I guess weeds could be my biggest problem. Might need to be on the ball with the basagran. Never seen it work all that we'll before.

@Jon yours look like there might still be some to emerge?

Even the first photo looks fine to me

I like your optimism!

If that was a bit more bodied soil then I would hope they just might be OK, but some of the few that are there are already dying back on these light patches.

I put 50 percent more seed on the lighter side of the field and they're still struggling.
 

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