Atlantis final fling

shakerator

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Nice surprise this pm
a few fields where still worth using at least, although wont be 100%. I was worried about this one and sprayed at 500L/ha misting along at snails pace!

this field has had 4 spring crops on the bounce and no winter wheat since 2009!
 

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Nice surprise this pm
a few fields where still worth using at least, although wont be 100%. I was worried about this one and sprayed at 500L/ha misting along at snails pace!

this field has had 4 spring crops on the bounce and no winter wheat since 2009!

Do you remember that evidence I sent you about reduced Atlantis efficacy with increasing water rates?!
 

Oat

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Cheshire
If you have resistance, altering water volume or adding exchange isn't likely to be a game changer when it comes to Atlantis I'm afraid, nor will mixing topik or broadway star with it do much.

True, Broadway is another ALS inhibitor, so if you have resistance to Atlantis, you'll have resistance to Broadway. The only other ALS products recommended to be used in the same crop as Atlantis are broad leaved weed SU products.

Topik probably won't do much, because most black grass has resistance to ACCase products like this.

Your best bet is flufenacet based products in sequence or mix, applied earlier (pre or early post-emergence). Currently there is no resistance to flufenacet [emoji2]
 

shakerator

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LINCS
True, Broadway is another ALS inhibitor, so if you have resistance to Atlantis, you'll have resistance to Broadway. The only other ALS products recommended to be used in the same crop as Atlantis are broad leaved weed SU products.
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Like Lexus at 10g! At 20g it becomes a grass weed recommendation !!

Broadway generally poor on blackgrass but unite similar to Atlantis in trials....LEXUS is the difference suggesting additive post em activity with ALS
 

Brisel

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Arable Farmer
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Midlands
Nice surprise this pm
a few fields where still worth using at least, although wont be 100%. I was worried about this one and sprayed at 500L/ha misting along at snails pace!

this field has had 4 spring crops on the bounce and no winter wheat since 2009!

Have you had the blackgrass tested to see which resistance mechanism you have? Even if you have strong EMR it will still work on small plants with good application and good growing conditions for maximum uptake.

Have you tried pulling the growing point out to see if it is really going to die? If you roll the new leaf between your fingers to give it a few turns it should pull out cleanly and easily.
 

shakerator

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LINCS
Have you had the blackgrass tested to see which resistance mechanism you have? Even if you have strong EMR it will still work on small plants with good application and good growing conditions for maximum uptake.

Have you tried pulling the growing point out to see if it is really going to die? If you roll the new leaf between your fingers to give it a few turns it should pull out cleanly and easily.

no not tested
it definately wont all die. but i was expecting a spray off and replant but had the chem in stock anyway so just tried to blockbuster it
 

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