Is he mad?

Ukjay

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Location
Wales!
I am interested in the answer to this question as well. Are they selling Nesquik milk as opposed to the regular stuff?

To let someone answer that, tell them what you get paid for a ltr of milk. There are lots of questions /neigh sayers on this thread - but no one has been prepared to offer up the math to show how bad it must be by reading this thread, just stating he will not be able to make 50k!
 

More to life

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Location
Somerset
Interesting read in Agricultural Matters would be very different if posted on the dairy section. He might do 50k some years an average of 30k would be more realistic. Lots of variables including inexperienced which could cost years of profit. A young man with a dream go for it don't die wondering.
 

Hilly

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Interesting read in Agricultural Matters would be very different if posted on the dairy section. He might do 50k some years an average of 30k would be more realistic. Lots of variables including inexperienced which could cost years of profit. A young man with a dream go for it don't die wondering.
Or die trying, firstly it takes a very special personality to survive working 100% alone, not many can do it.
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Rent a farm and buy a robot for it?

Now I've heard everything...:whistle:

I tendered for one farm doing just that. 220ac grass farm with an ex-dairy set up (clusters hung up in parlour and dairy door shut 7 years beforehand) with housing for 55 cows. Perfect for a single robot herd run as a part time enterprise, alongside sheep on the rest of the farm. No way it would have worked if I'd have tied myself to a small parlour twice a day, when I could have been doing something more productive. Even had a provisional agreement on a milk contract in place.:( Runner up in the end, the farm going to an established dairy unit running it as a satellite unit for forage/dry cows/followers. The plan opened the door to this place though.:)

I came at it as someone who has experience of milking cows on robots (& parlours) and how to make them work. Without substantial investment in expanding buildings/infrastructure, it was only ever going to be a part time dairy unit IMO. Figures certainly stood up well enough, with the robot on finance over 7 years and milk price at 25ppl. If we'd got it, we'd have just started milking as milk hit 30ppl.
 
Don't thinks he's mad at all. Fair play to him if he wants to go farming.

Nearly two years ago I was 28, and I was going to go into grass based dairy farming as a assistant herdsman, but I got talked out of it, by family and friends, saying there was no future in it, the milk price was starting to drop and I was getting anxious with the choice I was going to make, then decided not to follow it.

It was a big mistake in my view, and I regret the choice, I should of gone into dairying, been reading lots of fantastic articles about people working up from assistant herdsmen into share milkers.

Would love a second chance!

Why wont he work as a assistant for a few years and learn the ropes of running a dairy farm? He can still save money and learn about the job as well.
 

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
You'd really have to know cows wouldn't you? And like them. And be very proficient at the job from day one.

And paying a rent? Really?

I'm not saying its mission impossible, but it's pretty damn close.

I went back into farming because I wanted to be my own boss and run my own business. I am now trying to get into a non farming small business of my own. Farming just isn't very profitable and can't see it ever will be, and frankly the pace is a bit pedestrian. You work for the RPA and the quality assurance man and all the other hangers on.

But we must do what we think best.
 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

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quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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