Wheat variety choices next year?

BenB

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BASE UK Member
Location
Wiltshire
I see Tripod is still available as a seed treatment which claims some early season foliar activity, has anyone got any experience of it?
 

David.

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
J11 M40
Ordered a bit of Bennington, as local home will take it as a soft with Viscount and Zulu.
Untreated trial of Barrel completely dead with septoria end of May apparently:poop:.Siskin too slow out the blocks and Costello not really looking any better than Zulu by side of it.
 

Brisel

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Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
I see Tripod is still available as a seed treatment which claims some early season foliar activity, has anyone got any experience of it?

Fuberidazole + triadmenol? Used to be called Baytan. Can delay germination. I'd use it for rusty varieties like Reflection now that Galamno/Jockey has gone.

HSE website & Sentinel say it has expired but it has been on commercial use up since 2013!
 

4course

Member
Location
north yorks
not harvested anything yet but looks like
BARLEY tower,has done well here for a few years dont like 6 row and wont grow hybrids

WHEAT revelation, a couple of days later but looks tremendous with massive number of grains/ear and did well last yr
lili, doesnt matter if it doesnt make a premium as yields as well as anything as first or 2nd
evolution, does well in 2nd wheat but will have to watchfor yr as had a bit early this year
barrel first harvest coming up has looked well all year clean and buyer out there other than feed or ethanol
motown will be the new one to try
grafton old like me but is early to harvest and gets us going still yields with a high seed rate
siskin is under review just starting to lean precairiously will depend on final yield
reflection too dirty not for me
diego last harvest as now becoming outclassed though it has served us well
wether or not this is the final choice yet to be decided but havent seen anything else that floats my boat yet
 

franklin

New Member
motown will be the new one to try

I think this could be the sleeper hit - a bit like a new version of Diego. Does nothing exceptionally, but solid all around.

Will stick with Relay for feed. Siskin is being dropped. Quite likely Lili will go too and we will go to 65% gp1, 35% feed.
 

PSQ

Member
Arable Farmer
Revelation looking good in the 1st W slot, still got 4 green leaves (y)
Grafton has a few blind sites but is the only variety to fit in front of OSR in the 3rd W slot (y)
Siskin, shy tillering, take all and fusarium ear blight. Like a hooker at a Man U stag do. (n)
- Think I'll replace it with Kerrin in the 2nd W slot, but will be watching the '17 HGCA results like a hawk as it's recommendation is on "limited data".

Haven't found any spikelets set 5 across in any variety on the farm, maybe a drought thing this year?
 

BigBarl

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
South Notts
One thing to bear in mind is the crop we are planting this Autumn may well be sold post Brexit (Apr 2019), what will be best to have in the barn then, quality bread/biscuit or a big heap of feed? I know quality is over supplied at the moment on the back of last years exceptional quality, but if everyone switches into feed wheat to drill this autumn, there could be a big domestic gap to fill depending on the outcome of Brexit?
That said I'm still going to grow feed, can't be arsed with the tension of milling wheat on wheels to the mill...
 

franklin

New Member
1) Yield gap between feed and milling so small, might as well grow milling *but*
2) Premium for hard gp4s most years, so there's that *and*
3) Vivergo demand for feed makes price of basic feed wheat here equivalent to a low milling premium.

Still, I would always rather have a premium variety in the ground. I like the earliness of Skyfall, and it's flexible sowing window. But the ears are always very dinky (big grains) and it always looks a sad comparison to the massive ears and leaves in the Relay. Always pays better in the end though.
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
One thing to bear in mind is the crop we are planting this Autumn may well be sold post Brexit (Apr 2019), what will be best to have in the barn then, quality bread/biscuit or a big heap of feed? I know quality is over supplied at the moment on the back of last years exceptional quality, but if everyone switches into feed wheat to drill this autumn, there could be a big domestic gap to fill depending on the outcome of Brexit?
That said I'm still going to grow feed, can't be arsed with the tension of milling wheat on wheels to the mill...

Grow something not in Group 4 but has a yield of 104% of controls. What is you main market? Ethanol?

Just don't price it anywhere near or after March 2019 in case there's no Brexit deal in place. I've got a feeling there will be boats queued up 10 deep in the major ports Oct-Dec 18 and deathly quiet after March 19...
 

texelburger

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Herefordshire
I think the group 4's could be sorted out pretty easily.

Hards

Kerrin = high input high output growers in the east and north mainly. Looks solid, tillers well.
Shabras = my pick, yields there with Kerrin but better disease and Septoria so would plump for it out of the hards. Very good in the West but suitable UK wide. Will suit growers who are less likely to get fungicides on in the right 3hr hour window!
Diego = dead (or at least should be)
Costello = not enough seed in its first commercial year, good sample but doesn't yield, so why would you go into it when Shabras/Hardwicke are available?
Graham = good early driller
Crispin = good late driller

Softs

Sundance = very very clean, looks great in the field. Watch spec weight. But one I am looking forward to growing. Not the most vigorous tillering so be careful of dropping the seed rate to try and bring the spec weight up. Maybe keep off the real light land?
Mowtown = good early harvest, decent enough yield and good sample. Good on light land
Revelation = good early driller, still clean also. Yields down on most now but it is likely to attract a soft premium to make up the gross margin a bit
Hardwicke = shortest variety listed, stiff, clean agronomics, decent yield. Easy to overlook in my opinion. Diego cross so should be pretty consistent. Northern recommendation due to market demands (distilling) but could travel south happily.

Candidates
Universe (soft) watch straw strength but good sample and clean.
Gravity - massive barn filler. Got midge, tillers very well, one to try definitely.

Anything not mentioned because I feel the others have everything covered?
Our Sundance has tillered fantastically well,it's almost too thick.Agree it is very clean (tiny bit of mildew in tge bottom) and still quite green .Won the local wheat growing competition ,hope it doesn't disappoint at harvest.
 

4course

Member
Location
north yorks
Revelation looking good in the 1st W slot, still got 4 green leaves (y)
Grafton has a few blind sites but is the only variety to fit in front of OSR in the 3rd W slot (y)
Siskin, shy tillering, take all and fusarium ear blight. Like a hooker at a Man U stag do. (n)
- Think I'll replace it with Kerrin in the 2nd W slot, but will be watching the '17 HGCA results like a hawk as it's recommendation is on "limited data".

Haven't found any spikelets set 5 across in any variety on the farm, maybe a drought thing this year?
revelation has a massive number of grains/ ear this year here but having just driven from n yorks up A1 towards perth crops look tremendous the further north you go and wouldnt surprise me if there arnt some bumper yields on that lovely red land near the coast
 

DanniAgro

Member
If we have a disordly brexit we need less gp4 wheat if harvest 18 has high yields
Unfortunately the grain market will be subject to the same forces as now - eg if drought hits Argentina, mid west US and Australia then prices will rocket but if it's the opposite then we'll all be bust.
 

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