Sowing peas...!!

hendrebc

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It could be we have different names for a few things over here for the same stuff as you have. Ive seen it in seed catalogues by cotswolds seeds. They have a lot of interesting stuff in there. Never seen any frown though its more a thing for arable country not so much stock feed.
 

JD-Kid

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It could be we have different names for a few things over here for the same stuff as you have. Ive seen it in seed catalogues by cotswolds seeds. They have a lot of interesting stuff in there. Never seen any frown though its more a thing for arable country not so much stock feed.
same thing under diffrent names tillage radish etc etc
why i would look at them is old turf slow to break down and soil turns to dust fast so one pass with roto spike toss on radish to bust up ground choke out some weeds etc etc then work them back in to bulk up OM in soil
2nd pass with roto spike will be eazer as turf will have broken down a bit
oats tossed in too would give some grazeing and root mass to add to OM as well
 

hendrebc

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I just went and had a look at the thread. Grazing oil radish it was called you mention you put some in with oats on there. Dont think soils turning to dust would be much of a problem for me we dont have sun for long enough very often and i have a few clay fields sonthat isnt going to dry up bery quickly. Good handy thing to know about though
 

Kiwi Pete

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Best run of the night.
 

Kiwi Pete

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same thing under diffrent names tillage radish etc etc
why i would look at them is old turf slow to break down and soil turns to dust fast so one pass with roto spike toss on radish to bust up ground choke out some weeds etc etc then work them back in to bulk up OM in soil
2nd pass with roto spike will be eazer as turf will have broken down a bit
oats tossed in too would give some grazeing and root mass to add to OM as well
Yeah I definitely get what you mean.. guessing what your soil is like and roughly equating it to what it's like beside a row of gum trees.
That thatchy stuff is murder to break up, level out..
Well I did 5.5 acres or so in spot on 5 hours.
This machine is 2.7 metres wide and did a damn good job all things considered.
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Something will grow in this I'm sure.
 

Kiwi Pete

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Only problem I can see pete with big seeds like peas is you will not get enough cover over them perhaps?
Grass and clovers etc will work well with that machine
Yes I didn't know exactly what would happen when ripping straight into pasture with it- it seems to be very very good as a cultivator so long as there's either no cover or really long cover next to trees where the soil is very loose. In between it doesn't exactly throw it around even with an extra pass.
Looks like someone has been having a play with a bottle of whisky and a Duncan renovator to be fair.
So bit the bullet and gave it a good chopping with a rotavator rotospike machine. Glad I did or I would have been mowing at approx 2mph. For the next ten years :shifty:
we've all mowed a paddock or two like that and I don't want to own one.
 

JD-Kid

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Yes I didn't know exactly what would happen when ripping straight into pasture with it- it seems to be very very good as a cultivator so long as there's either no cover or really long cover next to trees where the soil is very loose. In between it doesn't exactly throw it around even with an extra pass.
Looks like someone has been having a play with a bottle of whisky and a Duncan renovator to be fair.
So bit the bullet and gave it a good chopping with a rotavator rotospike machine. Glad I did or I would have been mowing at approx 2mph. For the next ten years :shifty:
we've all mowed a paddock or two like that and I don't want to own one.
it can still be wavy after roto spike can tend to drag and dump if turfy once they start getting speed bumps the machine starts hopping a bit mainly if bottom links on float
 

Kiwi Pete

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Yep, I tried playing around with the doors etc last year and came to the conclusion that sometimes it just leaves a ripple.
Pays not to go over again to try rub em out either!!! :eek::eek:
 

Kiwi Pete

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its not bad if more dirt the more turf they tend to bridge and let go then packer rides up lettig it dump another heap and so on and so on
Yeah that's exactly what I found.
Neighbour has rows of gums on his place and that really dry stuff next to them is hard work.
What do you normally follow with?
Roller? And then try to work them out?
 

JD-Kid

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Yeah that's exactly what I found.
Neighbour has rows of gums on his place and that really dry stuff next to them is hard work.
What do you normally follow with?
Roller? And then try to work them out?
dutch harrow would be the best to be fair
most of the time i just roller drill it and deal with it the following working even tho at times it's like a coragrated roof sheep don't seem to notice
if root mass rots it will tidy up with another pass bit slower to let soil flow better under gates
 

Kiwi Pete

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Peas came down...
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Hung them in the tree..
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No hiccups with the drill.
Put half in up and down, and half in around and around.
Couldn't see too well on second pass so I lifted the aerator up a little so I could just see my dual marks.
Calibration was bang on, considering I don't have a speedo or a speed sensor, I was 1% light after 2 passes.
Broadcast at 396kg/ha :eek:
Covered
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...and double rolled:sleep::sleep::sleep:
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Gate is shut (y)
Will report back in a few weeks :whistle: if it's not a disaster... :cautious:
 

Kiwi Pete

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HAHAHA we will be watching
hopefully all goes well with it good job some muppet said to run over it with the tiller
Yeah I'm sick of that paddock now.
Rolled down nice and just had a couple of good showers on it this evening (y)
Cheers for making me run the slug mincer over it, made a good job of the subsoiler whoops..
 

JD-Kid

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well yer would of saved 2 passes by leaveing yer subsoiler in the shed HAHAHA
it will be intresting to see what happens hopefully a good out come
would wonder if next time roto spike and toss on rape etc and let time break alot of the stuff down
then a bit cleaner seed bed to go in with peas doing the rape over winter peas spring then back in to fodder crop then to perm grasses in the following spring
 

Kiwi Pete

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well yer would of saved 2 passes by leaveing yer subsoiler in the shed HAHAHA
it will be intresting to see what happens hopefully a good out come
would wonder if next time roto spike and toss on rape etc and let time break alot of the stuff down
then a bit cleaner seed bed to go in with peas doing the rape over winter peas spring then back in to fodder crop then to perm grasses in the following spring
Yeah I def wasted my time doing it beforehand, twice, but it did give it a good loosen up ahead of the rotospike (I think)
Neighbours JD had a dodgy injector pump last season but it really made light work of the "shattered" turf. Felt like an extra 30hp after his cow ground anyway.
Next area to work on, is right down the back, a bunch of silly little flat points with dead gorse and creeks
Good shelter so may look at putting something in there for winter time - like you said maybe some radish rape and clover, then summer softs, or kale - then back into PP.
Quite like the idea of growing more than one thing even if it's not much of a crop it still fills a niche that weeds would like to be.
Not much area in it - just annoying to mow and the stock seem to go there to hide not to graze. Pretty poor grass, needs attention.
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There's enough water in the creek for sheep to get a drink if they were fenced on it
 

JD-Kid

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yea we have a lot of areas with crap grasses
done some radishs in garden grew ok but not alot of growth over winter also tend to go to flower fast so short term crop
ok for breaking in ground i think if rocky and can't run rippers
when have tryed gland ,crimson ,berseen,persian,arrowleaf clovers
also balansa clover but wrote that off for here did not grow well other areas it may
all have some hope needs warm rains to get them going tho
there are alot of good mixs if yer after radishs hard to get in NZ but
https://www.norwestseed.co.nz/products
thats were i got mine from and wanting to try the newer one maybe this year
that new fodder cross one frome PGG is ment to be a good one to look at
https://www.pggwrightsonseeds.com/Crops/Brassicas/Raphno/Pallaton
 

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