750A spoked gauge wheels

Farmer Roy

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Arable Farmer
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NSW, Newstralya
But they aren't filling with mud in mine and what little bit that gets in is coming out the back. It is just literally a sticky mud that is building on the face of the disc that the rubber isn't scraping off. @Feldspar seems to have the same and he has got spoked wheels.

THAT is why you need the steel scraper ring on your gauge wheel

Run them up against the disc

Two basic styles. One is a fabricated ring that is pressed / glued onto the tyre
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The other is like a pressed metal "dish" that bolts inside the gauge wheel, using the bolts that hold the 2 halves together.
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They do work on closed gauge wheels, but obviously the spoked ones do allow more mud to fall out
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Farmer Roy

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Arable Farmer
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NSW, Newstralya
Sticky, soft, friable soil ( just like we have in a long term zero till situation ) you can have the rubber up hard against the disc & you will still get that mud build up - & wear out the tyre pretty quick

Very different to planting into tight or firm soil conditions
 

Clive

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Just getting some numbers to import mud smiths to the UK and trying to see if its worth it

does anyone know what the price of a JD spoken gauge wheel is please to compare ?
 

Louis Mc

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Meath, Ireland

fishtail

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Oxfordshire
£112 on a 3-4 day stock order.
We had this problem 2 weeks back when conditions were sticky.

Original wheels had done 6500 acres and lip was worn and damaged on them, removing shims did not fix the problem.
Spoked wheels were purchased and all is well, patience for drier times would probably the problem, but we have finished now and crop is well on its way. It may have stayed wet!!
 

Clive

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
£112 on a 3-4 day stock order.
We had this problem 2 weeks back when conditions were sticky.

Original wheels had done 6500 acres and lip was worn and damaged on them, removing shims did not fix the problem.
Spoked wheels were purchased and all is well, patience for drier times would probably the problem, but we have finished now and crop is well on its way. It may have stayed wet!!

mudsmithst are $199 so probably more expensive than the JD wheel then - unless there is some other advantage of a mud smith over the JD wheel, I know they are available in 3 different tyre widths
 

Simon Chiles

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mudsmithst are $199 so probably more expensive than the JD wheel then - unless there is some other advantage of a mud smith over the JD wheel, I know they are available in 3 different tyre widths

JD spoked gauge wheels also available in different widths and RID versions although I think they only import one in the UK.

Part nos AA86055, AA85465 and AA86226 if you're interested.
 
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Simon Chiles

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All I can say is you've done very well to get 6500 acres out of a set of tyres on what I assume is a 6 m wide machine

I got about 30,000 acres out of two sets of tyres on a 4 m including 1,000 acres/ year on flint. Saw the first set in the shed the other day and looking at them now I can't see why I changed them, I can only assume that the original ones were 11 mm lip and I thought I'd get more life out of the 7 mm lip tyres that replaced them!!!
 

Clive

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
JD spoked gauge wheels also available in different widths and RID versions although I think they only import one in the UK.

Part nos AA86055, AA85465 and AA86226 if you're interested.

never had the problem here really but as Im bringing a load of row cleaners over I thought maybe if there was demand it would have been easy to add them to our shipping container
 

Farmer Roy

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Arable Farmer
Location
NSW, Newstralya
our soil is heavy black self mulching clays with high OM & small gritty particles

very kind to steel, but very abrasive on rubber. Tractor tyres, gauge wheel tyres etc. No stones. Just hard on rubber.

Even in drier conditions with the recommended gap between the tyre & disc, there is no way we could get that sort of life out of the tyres. That's on 8 or 12 m machines !!
Once things get a bit wet or sticky on the disc, we can destroy gauge wheel tyres in a few hours . . .
Hence the ( farmer driven ) development of the scraper rings

Horses for courses I guess.

I will say though, if you are having trouble with mud they are the ducks nuts. Only about $25 each, but any decent fabricator could make them for you
 

cows sh#t me to tears

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Livestock Farmer
My tires lasted 2 seasons and had all ripped the lip to some degree. Changed them for Needham 2 3/4 urethane wheels and tires and have had no problem. Can also run them closer to the disc. Soft wet sand was my biggest problem last year , so i just backed the pressure right off and that helped.
If i was to do it again i would go 3" tires so i could use either the JD or mudsmith rims.
 
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