Stone Buriers - Any Good?

MJGH · Oct 21, 2017

I am reclaiming an area of ground and have seen you tube clips seeming to show good results.
Do they do what it says on the tin or is it like most things entirely dependant on a number of factors?
Input from anyone who has used one would be appreciated.
Thank you for your help.

john432 · Oct 21, 2017

I've only seen them on videos, but isn't it just burying the problem short time? Ie,untiĺ you plough cultivate again, but maybe it could be 30 years plus. There are also machines that pulverized the stones ,rocks to dust and chips, all mixed in.

phillipe · Oct 21, 2017

The chap who does the landscaping on the finnished sites around here has one.first up he goes thru the ground with a riddle bucket,to remove stones above 70mm ,then the stone burier get rid of yhe rest ,then rake an seed

Stock · Oct 21, 2017

If you have a lot of stone forget it, flails break, the soil needs to be dry and powdery for it to go through the screens, get yourself a kvernerland stone rake

Sharpy · Oct 21, 2017

Have used a Rotadiron and one other. Good for turf work, slow going and the soil needs to be dry enough, but if it isn't you shouldn't be in the field anyway.
They are basically a rotavator running backwards, throwing the soil at a riddle. The soil goes through, the stones fall to the bottom to be covered as you move forward. The machines soaked up an unbelievable amount of punishment, I was chewing bedrock and no damage. Genuine blades and bolts though.

simon-0116 · Oct 21, 2017

Stock said:
If you have a lot of stone forget it, flails break, the soil needs to be dry and powdery for it to go through the screens, get yourself a kvernerland stone rake

Were the stone

sheepmatilda · Oct 21, 2017

I have one we use it all the time for reinstatement work after the diggers. Has to be dry and you will need creep to do a good job. If it's wet it will block the fingers, you can lift the finger bar but, it will only leave it like a rotavator. I also have one for the compact tractor.

MJGH · Oct 21, 2017

sheepmatilda said:
View attachment 592700I have one we use it all the time for reinstatement work after the diggers. Has to be dry and you will need creep to do a good job. If it's wet it will block the fingers, you can lift the finger bar but, it will only leave it like a rotavator. I also have one for the compact tractor.

Thank you for your input.
Could I ask the make of the machine, is it a Blec?
Realistically what size stones will it deal with?
Also which Kubota do you have and what are they like?
Sorry for all the questions.

mar · Oct 21, 2017

This is what I'm using on a bit of ground that I am reclaiming

windymiller · Oct 21, 2017

Yes, do a good job, but pick the big stones out first because they get drawn up in to the machine and jam between the rotor and the top of the frame. Un decided yet if they spread the weed seed to the surface though, anyone else seen a big weed burden after using one?

sheepmatilda · Oct 21, 2017

Blec 2.5 and a 1.3
Kubota 2x M7171kvt and a winter hire M7151 power shift 1 kubota stw40 compact
They will deal with brick size ok it all depends on how dry your soil is we have done playing fields, gardens polo pitches etc they are a good tool for new build house gardens when you have a mess and have to make good. They will bury the turf to leave a clean bed. We aim to get cover of about 75mm over stones depends a bit soil to start with. It's a slow power hungry job and needs to be dry.

Finn farmer · Oct 21, 2017

What you need is someone with this, or some other make of "stone bear".

Burying the stones is only evading the inevitable, the problem will re-surface (obviously

) again. We had a hired field that had been farmed by a man who dug nice little holes for the stones so he could dump them in. Very nice idea in the long run.

Yes, we did hit several of those holes while ploughing.

Sharpy · Oct 22, 2017

MJGH said:
Thank you for your input.
Could I ask the make of the machine, is it a Blec?
Realistically what size stones will it deal with?
Also which Kubota do you have and what are they like?
Sorry for all the questions.

Blec was the other one I used. Was thinking Blanch but knew that was wrong.

Theswede · Oct 22, 2017

These Stone Burier machines might be the solution to my stone problems while growing onions. My land is mostly light clay with lots of stones in it. I have tried to use stone pickers like Kongskilde Stone Bear but it is just not enough. Basically I need 7-10 cm top soil with as few stones in it as possible. I have been thinking of running stone crushers as well but it seems very expensive. This could be my best solution, is it anyone with experience of Stone Buriers who can tell me if it could work? @sheepmatilda @windymiller @Sharpy

At what depth do I have to run the Stone Burier to be able to get 7-10 cm of non stony soil on top? I have quite a bit of stones but it is not enough to be a real problem when growing anything but onions (grass, wheat and maize). What is the preferred cultivation to do before you hit the ground with a stone burier? What size of tractor does a 3 m machine need?

Tim Howard · Oct 22, 2017

Theswede said:
These Stone Burier machines might be the solution to my stone problems while growing onions. My land is mostly light clay with lots of stones in it. I have tried to use stone pickers like Kongskilde Stone Bear but it is just not enough. Basically I need 7-10 cm top soil with as few stones in it as possible. I have been thinking of running stone crushers as well but it seems very expensive. This could be my best solution, is it anyone with experience of Stone Buriers who can tell me if it could work? @sheepmatilda @windymiller @Sharpy

At what depth do I have to run the Stone Burier to be able to get 7-10 cm of non stony soil on top? I have quite a bit of stones but it is not enough to be a real problem when growing anything but onions (grass, wheat and maize). What is the preferred cultivation to do before you hit the ground with a stone burier? What size of tractor does a 3 m machine need?

Your best bet would be a de-stoner and and big ridger as used by the potato growers, plenty of second hand ones but not so good if you have brick sized stones.

james ds · Oct 22, 2017

MJGH said:
I am reclaiming an area of ground and have seen you tube clips seeming to show good results.
Do they do what it says on the tin or is it like most things entirely dependant on a number of factors?
Input from anyone who has used one would be appreciated.
Thank you for your help.

If you have a lot of big stones then a big stone fork is the only job , you have to dig out stones half buried in the ground , I do a lot of stone clearing work , we have the kv stone rake as well but only use it on fine small stone work , it's not going to pull a big stone up out of the ground . This one is like mine .

dave6470 · Oct 22, 2017

Theswede said:
These Stone Burier machines might be the solution to my stone problems while growing onions. My land is mostly light clay with lots of stones in it. I have tried to use stone pickers like Kongskilde Stone Bear but it is just not enough. Basically I need 7-10 cm top soil with as few stones in it as possible. I have been thinking of running stone crushers as well but it seems very expensive. This could be my best solution, is it anyone with experience of Stone Buriers who can tell me if it could work? @sheepmatilda @windymiller @Sharpy

At what depth do I have to run the Stone Burier to be able to get 7-10 cm of non stony soil on top? I have quite a bit of stones but it is not enough to be a real problem when growing anything but onions (grass, wheat and maize). What is the preferred cultivation to do before you hit the ground with a stone burier? What size of tractor does a 3 m machine need?

A George Moate Tillerstar wood be good for onions

sheepmatilda · Oct 22, 2017

I would say that stoneburiers are only good for grass seed 50-75mm would be about it for soil over stones

Derrick Hughes · Oct 22, 2017

I've seen road crushers doing a good job

Theswede · Oct 22, 2017

sheepmatilda said:
I would say that stoneburiers are only good for grass seed 50-75mm would be about it for soil over stones

Ok, if there is no more need for cultivations after the stoneburier, or if I can run a shallow pass with the Carrier, I can get away with just 50 mm of soil above the stones. Do you think it is possible to plant onions straight away in the bed after the stoneburier?

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