Milk ureas.

Penmoel

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bf p urea bf/p
sept 4.34 3.54 0.028 1.23
October 3.83 3.17 0.033 1.21

October = more fresh cows plus they were grazing some pretty lush clover rich pastures , dropped the cake to 16% in mid October, quality took quite a dive but volumes up.
 

pappuller

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Livestock Farmer
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M6 Hard shoulder
fascinating

I have no idea what most of that means!
is my lack of knowledge good or bad(given that I'm a simple person)
I dont believe you have a lack of knowledge lazy. We had our study group meeting last night and one topic of discussion was how from a tff point of view you boys down south live and die by your kg of f&p whereas us cheshire boys focus more on the litre in the tank, but it was pointed out that the arla effect had changed things in the last few years in that direction.And no im not getting into an argument over it !
 
I dont believe you have a lack of knowledge lazy. We had our study group meeting last night and one topic of discussion was how from a tff point of view you boys down south live and die by your kg of f&p whereas us cheshire boys focus more on the litre in the tank, but it was pointed out that the arla effect had changed things in the last few years in that direction.And no im not getting into an argument over it !
Study group? You and @farmertom in the pub?
 

Big_D

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Location
S W Scotland
Is that a genuine unit of measure? Can you explain the mechanism of that to me?

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Handy feature on CIS site
 
I dont believe you have a lack of knowledge lazy. We had our study group meeting last night and one topic of discussion was how from a tff point of view you boys down south live and die by your kg of f&p whereas us cheshire boys focus more on the litre in the tank, but it was pointed out that the arla effect had changed things in the last few years in that direction.And no im not getting into an argument over it !
just wondered if I'm missing out on some key KPIs ?
 
Do milk ureas always run quite high when feeding urea even if overall dietary protein levels are quite low?

Mine are getting a lot of wholecrop with a bit of urea in. They're sh!tt!ng like horses but milk ureas are 300+
 

pappuller

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Livestock Farmer
Location
M6 Hard shoulder
Do milk ureas always run quite high when feeding urea even if overall dietary protein levels are quite low?

Mine are getting a lot of wholecrop with a bit of urea in. They're sh!tt!ng like horses but milk ureas are 300+
We are feeding 150grms urea and our mu have moved from a historical. 024 to an rare .030 so yes
 
High milk urea levels indicate there is inefficient use of protein in the diet, which can lead to reduced fertility (because it impacts the uterine environment)

it is worth checking whether cows need more readily available energy to balance the high degradable protein levels in the diet, which is a common thing in grass based diets due to the high levels of digestible protein in grass. Urea is again all front end protein as grass, in many cases you end up adding more of what the animal is already struggling to utilise, a lot of energy is expended converting ammonia to urea in the liver. This energy could be used for milk protein output, improved fertility and more milk.
 

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