Low input cereal stewardship option

yellow belly · Feb 3, 2018

any one using low imput cereal option in stewardship with notill AB14 code

been accepted for stewardship and have this option plan to grow spring barley notill can use avadex and eagle for weed control and some will be after a cove rsome just stubble any one doing this option already

SilliamWhale · Feb 3, 2018

Are you using avadex because its not a "spray"?

yellow belly · Feb 3, 2018

SilliamWhale said:
Are you using avadex because its not a "spray"?

avadex is allowed by natural england as is eagle and 3 contack grass killers

avadex will do bg oats eagle does cleavers and charlock and shepherds purse not planning to plant too early most of the problem weeds are covered not having a dense crop may throw up some other problems
although last year we did grow some spring crops with very little herbicide imput

Andrew K · Feb 5, 2018

yellow belly said:
avadex is allowed by natural england as is eagle and 3 contack grass killers

avadex will do bg oats eagle does cleavers and charlock and shepherds purse not planning to plant too early most of the problem weeds are covered not having a dense crop may throw up some other problems
although last year we did grow some spring crops with very little herbicide imput

I would be concerned about BG control with just Avadex, although i concede DD and spring drilling will ease risk a bit.

BSH · Apr 17, 2018

I have this option as part of an HLS agreement. Have done oats and barley before but am doing one of the Western Seeds oat mixes this year. I went for oats because there is more oat seed per 100 kg! But was just contemplating this for next year and wondering about a pea oat and barley mix. Havent found the final soloution yet I dont think although the last time I did the oats it yielded well.

Brisel · May 14, 2018

yellow belly said:
any one using low imput cereal option in stewardship with notill AB14 code

been accepted for stewardship and have this option plan to grow spring barley notill can use avadex and eagle for weed control and some will be after a cove rsome just stubble any one doing this option already

Yes, but not for harvest. I use it for grey partridge brood rearing strips next to beetle banks and on headlands. Just farm saved spring barley seed on wide row spacing and at a low seed rate of 80 kg/ha. Repeated use of the same sites makes them pretty weedy with wild oats & cleavers. Great insect habitat though. Too weedy to harvest so I just top them off after the combine has doen the rest of the field.

Pie face · Dec 17, 2018

Does anyone know if we are we still ok to use insecticides and fungicides on AB14 low input cereals as I can find no mention in the handbook ?

Brisel · Dec 17, 2018

Brisel · Dec 17, 2018

That's for Mid Tier agreements starting 1st Jan 2016 though it's the same for my 2018 starting Higher Tier. Your manual should specify.

No mention of fungicides, so you're clear to use them.

spin cycle · Dec 17, 2018

some yrs my low input barley has done really well....but this year was a disaster
eagle only really does cleavers IIRC
once my 10 yrs are up i won't grow it again....there're are better stewardship options out there IMO

Pie face · Dec 18, 2018

spin cycle said:
some yrs my low input barley has done really well....but this year was a disaster
eagle only really does cleavers IIRC
once my 10 yrs are up i won't grow it again....there're are better stewardship options out there IMO

There was about 1/2 tonne in it on my barley.

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