Margin per cow

supercow · Feb 14, 2018

coomoo said:
Your in the exact same position as me silage wise and it should count for something having plenty just sold 70 bales aswell. Had that bad load of blend in January so still stepping parlour cake down which by next months visit should be nearer 9 pence as opposed 10 pence. If I could shave £20/30 of parlour cake it’d squeeze that bit more. 12 me silage and maize land I’d be £££

Maize and all the likes isn't the be all and end all either, 50 acre of whole crop has lasted 3 months, albeit a bit of a nightmare summer. We aren't growing whole crop next year and only having grass silage. Sure it counts for something it must cost a fortune and effort hauling silage! Don't get down about your silage, we haven't got the best stuff nothing you can do about it and you know for a fact a lot of folk have got bad stuff this year! Try NWF, they are very competitively priced for good feed?

Will Blackburn · Feb 14, 2018

supercow said:
Try NWF, they are very competitively priced for good feed?

Judging by your previous post they are about £20 to £30 too expensive.

supercow · Feb 14, 2018

Will Blackburn said:
Judging by your previous post they are about £20 to £30 too expensive.

How much is your cake? 190£? Bloody good price for good cake , where do you get that from??

Will Blackburn · Feb 14, 2018

supercow said:
How much is your cake? 190£? Bloody good price for good cake , where do you get that from??

It's more than I'd like but we've been feeding wholecrop wheat so have upped the protein to 20%.

buffalo_soldier · Feb 14, 2018

Is it weather delays that are causing you guys to be cautious of a multi cut system?

supercow · Feb 14, 2018

Will Blackburn said:
It's more than I'd like but we've been feeding wholecrop wheat so have upped the protein to 20%.

How much is it then?

Milkcow365 · Feb 14, 2018

coomoo said:
Your in the exact same position as me silage wise and it should count for something having plenty just sold 70 bales aswell. Had that bad load of blend in January so still stepping parlour cake down which by next months visit should be nearer 9 pence as opposed 10 pence. If I could shave £20/30 of parlour cake it’d squeeze that bit more. 12 me silage and maize land I’d be £££

9ppl for total or just bought in?
I’ve just moved off 2nd cut to 4th and went up 3kg of milk and dropped feed cost 1ppl
I now have the view good silage is the be all and end all,

Will Blackburn · Feb 14, 2018

supercow said:
How much is it then?

I'm bound by confidentiality, but genuinely throwing it put there that there are better deals to be had. We have historically used NWF and I couldn't crack them into giving me a discount.

supercow · Feb 14, 2018

Obviously not getting a keyboard war but you can't say my cake is 30£ too expensive at 210£ and not state the price of your own cake. Not currently accepting that as an honest arguement!

coomoo · Feb 14, 2018

Thomas-milmain said:
9ppl for total or just bought in?
I’ve just moved off 2nd cut to 4th and went up 3kg of milk and dropped feed cost 1ppl
I now have the view good silage is the be all and end all,

Yeah bought in as opposed to a similar farmer who’s doing just over 7 and it’s his silage smashing mine. Totally agree about silage now getting 42kg per head into them it’s just convincing older gen that it’s the mainstay here so drives everything. Looks like I’m a bit dear on parlour cake aswell but always want to feed top spec in there.

supercow · Feb 14, 2018

Thomas-milmain said:
9ppl for total or just bought in?
I’ve just moved off 2nd cut to 4th and went up 3kg of milk and dropped feed cost 1ppl
I now have the view good silage is the be all and end all,

Not many people will disagree with you there! Was it the poor 2nd cut or really really really good fourth cut that made the difference ?!?

supercow · Feb 14, 2018

coomoo said:
Yeah bought in as opposed to a similar farmer who’s doing just over 7 and it’s his silage smashing mine. Totally agree about silage now getting 42kg per head into them it’s just convincing older gen that it’s the mainstay here so drives everything. Looks like I’m a bit dear on parlour cake aswell but always want to feed top spec in there.

I wouldn't listen to a lot of people on here @coomoo ! If you listened to everyone you'd end up a crackpot!!!

More to life · Feb 14, 2018

supercow said:
I wouldn't listen to a lot of people on here @coomoo ! If you listened to everyone you'd end up a crackpot!!!

Occasionally listening might be considered progress

Will Blackburn · Feb 14, 2018

supercow said:
Obviously not getting a keyboard war but you can't say my cake is 30£ too expensive at 210£ and not state the price of your own cake. Not currently accepting that as an honest arguement!

My cake is 20% so not really comparable, more comparable to the blend but it makes that look £50 too expensive when you take the cost of cubing and blowing a nut? Also I'm taking full loads twice a month, so up to £8 quantity discount. So to give a price is not necessarily productive.

Will Blackburn · Feb 14, 2018

supercow said:
Not currently accepting that as an honest arguement!

I haven't got an argument.

HasthorpeGrange · Feb 14, 2018

coomoo said:
Yeah bought in as opposed to a similar farmer who’s doing just over 7 and it’s his silage smashing mine. Totally agree about silage now getting 42kg per head into them it’s just convincing older gen that it’s the mainstay here so drives everything. Looks like I’m a bit dear on parlour cake aswell but always want to feed top spec in there.

If your bought in feed is 9ppl what's your overall cost per liter? And what are you buying in?

Milkcow365 · Feb 14, 2018

2nd

4th

supercow said:
Not many people will disagree with you there! Was it the poor 2nd cut or really really really good fourth cut that made the difference ?!?

Milkcow365 · Feb 14, 2018

Thomas-milmain said:
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Says 3rd but it was 2nd

jimmer · Feb 14, 2018

I have silage that is 10 me and 10% PR , luckily I bought it for its worth , so managed to get feed costs down to 11ppl

supercow · Feb 14, 2018

Thomas-milmain said:
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That ME is the difference! Quality silage really is the be all and end all, it's the difference between a profitable farm and a break even farm. What grass seed mixture do you use? Or do you not want to reveal your secret!

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