Margin per cow

Bald Rick

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Anglesey
Obviously I'm not going on and on... But your arguement was clearly I'm paying too much for our cake.

If you are buying it as an individual farmer, then yes you will be paying more for it and your feed rep thanks you most kindly.

I suspect that @Will Blackburn is, like me, part of a buying group or Co-Op (hence his non disclosure comment earlier). I will say that it is a "no brainer" as you will more than likely save the initial cost of membership within your first load. We did

As for Margin/Cow, it all comes down to quality of home grown forage. We have made some absolute sh!t this year and are suffering for it. Roll on a nice dry summer with rainfall every so often but not too much
 

coomoo

Member
12.1
If your bought in feed is 9ppl what's your overall cost per liter? And what are you buying in?
Simple here on 42 kg silage 8kg 20% blend 1.5 he molasses and targeting getting 18% parlour cake down from 5kg to 3kg av nearly there and yield up slightly. Silage a mixture of first and second cuts.
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Location
Cheshire
Obviously I'm not going on and on... But your arguement was clearly I'm paying too much for our cake.
No, you asked if it was a fair price, it might be, but you could get it for less.

Back in the day a great rep Don Mackey used to tell us everything that was going on all over Cheshire and beyond. Don't remember any talk of costings or nutritional advice, but he was definitely good value.

Laterly we had silage testing, nutritional advice and financial data with the feed supply, this wasn't good value.

More recently we are part of a group buy. Total purchased feed cost is about 6ppl, so I run a decent car myself instead of funding a reps car.
 

Durry cows

Member
Location
Derbyshire
I’m planning next winters feeding currently just under 4ppl purchased feed mopf £220 next winter I’m planning >21kgdm average 12me which I believe should supply me m +32 or thereabouts but would be interested to hear others thoughts? This would be grass silage maize silage and brewers grains only...?
 

coomoo

Member
No, you asked if it was a fair price, it might be, but you could get it for less.

Back in the day a great rep Don Mackey used to tell us everything that was going on all over Cheshire and beyond. Don't remember any talk of costings or nutritional advice, but he was definitely good value.

Laterly we had silage testing, nutritional advice and financial data with the feed supply, this wasn't good value.

More recently we are part of a group buy. Total purchased feed cost is about 6ppl, so I run a decent car myself instead of funding a reps car.
Sounds like my current journey from feed reps to independent.
 

pappuller

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
M6 Hard shoulder
I’m planning next winters feeding currently just under 4ppl purchased feed mopf £220 next winter I’m planning >21kgdm average 12me which I believe should supply me m +32 or thereabouts but would be interested to hear others thoughts? This would be grass silage maize silage and brewers grains only...?
You not feeding any hard feed ? Do you think youll get those intakes on all bulk inputs ? V impressive if you can do it, how much grains you hoping to feed ?
 

Durry cows

Member
Location
Derbyshire
Am at the minute soya and biscuit meal 2kg of each. Next winter is what that plan is getting based around...hypothetically 7kgdm of each feed but that would put the grains high (40% dm gives 17.5kg) which be too high, against 18 pro 12 me grass silage maize and grains in 50/50 split gives starch and good quality cooked protein(some bypass) so grains @ 24pro maize @ 8-10 gives balance between the 2 @ 17 or thereabouts so makes a nice open tasty ration? Might have to chuck a kg of protein source in and like you say need the dm intake rough dm of the tmr be 30-35 depending on forages
 

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