Hilly
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Never, they have had 2018 years to think about it so another 50 wont change anything, just a load of gobbeldy gook to control folk back in the day.
Immigration Good For The Country?
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I think a lot of the problems is to many people living in an ever decreasing space. Years ago there would of been a plague or other diseases to kill off half the population or a big war to kill off millions but as we have not had this it’s created its own problems. I think there will be a big war again before to long as humans hate each other and have different views on life so will never get along . As simple as that.
We had a conversation with a childhood frend, whos a dryliner, when the economic crisis hit a few years back, and even he could see it, he said the common market was alright when you had countries like france and germany and holland all with a similar standard of living, but when poorer countries like poland, and now turkey wanting to join where a days money for a labourer is equivalent to £ 10 if you can get a days work? how do hell is that ever going to work no wonder they come here, now you have pro discrimination where you have foreign worker firms owned by foreigners only wanting to recruit from their own country, i know this for a fact romanians runn ing building companies recruiting from romania?/
Hilly
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I wot like that because war is not likable but i do agree with you.
Hilly
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- Scottish Borders.
The whole thing with immigrants gone to far to many too quick.
icanshootwell
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Take a good look at the country's that always seem to be fighting each other, there at it now, and will always be. I don,t need to say where, its on the news most nights.
M-J-G
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People don't have to do what is suggested to them. I was educated in a time where it was encouraged to do a degree, but many didn't. Many who bought into the idea of a degree being an elevator to the top, will have quickly realised that what they were told was misleading, learning not to trust everything you are told is probably the type of shock tactic required to wake up those who were naive enough to believe this kind of nonsense, and will have resulted in an alternative education all of it's own.
More concerning however are those who simply won't work at all. There would be no need for immigrants to come here to do the low paid jobs, if the unemployed (some of which are 3rd generation) had a less comfortable way of life.
The job market is like any other, if you make yourself too expensive or simply get lazy or complacent, a cheaper alternative that can be relied upon will come in from abroad to take your place.
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We eroding away. Haha. I still think humans hate each other and never will get on especially if crowded together.
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Absolutely. In all seriousness, I felt no joy when my daughter had kids, I am sure they will see nasty times. World (for the human race) is f**ked as far as I can see.
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I think you’re right unfortunately.
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As a migrant from the U.K. and an immigrant into New Zealand Looks like I have kept both sides happy then. If you want more to leave 6 of us left the U. K. (Wife,myself and 4 kids ).New Zealand wanted more immigrants so we met their requirements also.
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I reckon New Zealand is probably one of the safest places to be in present times , far end away from any trouble.
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The immigrants are not taking the opportunities at all, they are still there, Immigrants are prepared to do the work that locals do not want to do.
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That’s not quite all of it, they will be prepared to do it for the lower wages that employers want to pay. Wages have gone down, supply and demand causes that. Just like farm produce, when there is a glut the price drops.
Hilly
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Our benefit system and education system is the problem with British people, Polish etc are not genetically harder working.
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- Bay of Plenty NZ
The immigrants may be prepared to work harder for less. That does not mean the opportunity for locals has diminished,it may mean that locals have to work for less to compete.
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Spoken by someone with money and possibly gaining from cheap labour
Hilly
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It means the locals can sometimes collect more benefit for not working than wages for working.
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You can not blame immigrants it’s a political thing. If the eu said you could have unlimited and unrestricted access to the uk and you lived in a s**t hole like Poland and the rest of Eastern Europe you would want to come here, it’s obvious.