"Improving Our Lot" - Planned Holistic Grazing, for starters..

Farmer Roy · Jul 11, 2018

holwellcourtfarm said:
Shane also sees a threat to innovative land management in the dictation of practices, such as vegetation and pasture management, by authorities which often do not have direct experience on the land. “Ordinary people in remote places lack the opportunity to ‘have a conversation’ with such entities. To share and demonstrate actual experiences, is a missed opportunity for these authorities and virtually guarantees ‘more of the same’ from them.

UK Ag syndrome

my friend who is taking me up there used to work for Qld DPI ( department of primary industries ) & currently works in NSW Local Land Services, another Govt rural based area . . .
he has seen at first hand experience people like Shane doing the " right " thing by the environment or the land, but coming up against regulations & authoriteh . Thankfully, with good people like him on the ground, I think the systems are becoming more flexible & decentralised . . .

Farmer Roy · Jul 11, 2018

holwellcourtfarm said:
Shane also sees a threat to innovative land management in the dictation of practices, such as vegetation and pasture management, by authorities which often do not have direct experience on the land. “Ordinary people in remote places lack the opportunity to ‘have a conversation’ with such entities. To share and demonstrate actual experiences, is a missed opportunity for these authorities and virtually guarantees ‘more of the same’ from them.

UK Ag syndrome

give yourself a ball rub for reading the link

Farmer Roy · Jul 11, 2018

Kiwi Pete said:
No issues at all.
That's where the calcium goes!
I am a hoarder when it comes to nutrients as I don't really see the need to buy things in one form that are all around us in other forms - I gather those big horns that the kelp sticks to the rocks with, I see them washed up on the beach and fill my trailer while the kids and dog let off steam.

Just cut them free of the rest of the kelp and throw them on til the cage is full.
The whole top of my heap was covered in kelp roots for a month and then the worms came nothing to see now

Calcium in... it's important to keep things just quietly ticking in if they are quietly ticking out, the rest comes down to cycling.
So dead things may as well not be exported IMO, they have cost money but it is our choice to "lose" them.

Gorse bushes - money in them

Everything when it is dead is worth something, if you can figure out how to recover the nutrients.

An ruminant is roughly 18% carbon - from the sky

so are humans, if you put it like that

Farmer Roy · Jul 11, 2018

that's where the pigs help

Kiwi Pete · Jul 11, 2018

Farmer Roy said:
hopefully going up to this place in September

a mate of mine is going up to do a lot of drone work & asked me to come along
they are some of the fore fathers of regenerative agriculture in Australia

http://www.soilsforlife.org.au/cs-dukes-plain

Fu^cking read the story in the link to, im sure most of you c^unts just pass em by without reading

I read everything you put in front of me.
If there's a fire extinguisher I will read the labels

I like those shadecloth teabags for administering in the water - I have a dosatron here but it pays not to put seaweed through the system, so I only use it in my barn where the water system can be flushed - it can grow and clog all the joiners and tees in the pipe if you aren't careful.
Would be a good use for my solids out of the brewing drums, those kelp bits I just mentioned.
Quite keen to try yeasts and kefir leaching in that way too.

holwellcourtfarm · Jul 11, 2018

Farmer Roy said:
give yourself a ball rub for reading the link

As if I need an excuse

awkward · Jul 11, 2018

not sure if a link to 3lm. has been mentioned it's linked to Savory Institute. lists videos of holistic farming . good video on dairy under the story of dairy

holwellcourtfarm · Jul 11, 2018

awkward said:
not sure if a link to 3lm. has been mentioned it's linked to Savory Institute. lists videos of holistic farming . good video on dairy under the story of dairy

@Sheila Cooke from 3LM drops in here regularly and posts occasionally.

Ukjay · Jul 11, 2018

Farmer Roy said:
lefties make a lot of use of it as well

you obviously haven't seen a lot of the pages I follow

Will have a play and see - whats the worst that can happen

Ukjay · Jul 11, 2018

Crofter64 said:
No bans on lefties last time I checked, or right- handed people either, comrade.

By 'Leftie' I was being a bit sarcastic - due to some comments made about ones whom follow another train of thought process.

Ukjay · Jul 11, 2018

holwellcourtfarm said:
So it'll probably be banned here as "anti-welfare"

I think it would be - as they are trying to get the dog collars banned as they are inhumane, so I doubt we would see this for cattle or sheep etc?

Ukjay · Jul 11, 2018

Farmer Roy said:
give yourself a ball rub for reading the link

You appear to like ball rubs Roy - wanna share something with the audience

holwellcourtfarm · Jul 11, 2018

Ukjay said:
I think it would be - as they are trying to get the dog collars banned as they are inhumane, so I doubt we would see this for cattle or sheep etc?

It'll be illegal to kill any animal here soon if we're not careful

Ukjay · Jul 11, 2018

holwellcourtfarm said:
It'll be illegal to kill any animal here soon if we're not careful

Yes - Vegwanism is the new Black, even if they are a bunch of twonks talking out their arses!!

Samcowman · Jul 11, 2018

Farmer Roy said:
hopefully going up to this place in September

a mate of mine is going up to do a lot of drone work & asked me to come along
they are some of the fore fathers of regenerative agriculture in Australia

http://www.soilsforlife.org.au/cs-dukes-plain

Fu^cking read the story in the link to, im sure most of you c^unts just pass em by without reading

I confess I only read abput half of them. There must be more hours in the day in oz!!!

hendrebc · Jul 11, 2018

Samcowman said:
I confess I only read abput half of them. There must be more hours in the day in oz!!!

I probably read about half as well but try and read more. Same as videos i watch them in the evening with proper internet inread these too if i.know it will load. Slow internet/3g on the farm is the reason for most of them i pass by. I usually try and load them but then the tab crashes and then i cant load tff back up

but if it loads i keep the tab open and read it in the evening at home late at night usually

have 3 or 4 to catch up with now

CornishTone · Jul 11, 2018

Farmer Roy said:
ive said it before - I am SO glad I live where I live

The animal welfare idiots nearly stopped the trial at UNE at Armidale. They had to jump through all sorts of hoops to get it going.

Farmer Roy · Jul 11, 2018

Samcowman said:
I confess I only read abput half of them. There must be more hours in the day in oz!!!

no - we just don't spend many of them working

Kiwi Pete · Jul 11, 2018

Farmer Roy said:
no - we just don't spend many of them working

Glad you said it and not me

It is important to divvy up your time between all 6 'things we do':

withdrawl
pastimes
activities

rituals
games

and, probably, intimacy

it's as important as the rest to actually connect with someone else.

I can see how it gets out of whack, but, I can also see people letting it.

Agrispeed · Jul 12, 2018

going into some medium sort of covers, but very stemmy. Since it will be for silage after and could do with decent regrowth I wanted to leave a fair cover behind. Tried bigger breaks but they were hammering one area and leaving clumps, so I had to burn some diesel.

Boring but it does leave a lovely finish and should pee the docks off a bit too. Cows are licking it every scrap up now. I'm only taking it down to 2300ish with the mower and grazing it to 2000 or so. Some of the rumens are actually sticking significantly out so DM intake might be higher? but I'm unconvinced.

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