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ollie989898

ollie989898

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TelesnaAg said:
Trey Gowdy...ohh give me a break..the guy couldnt charge a cell phone little lone a criminal.

He said muellers time at fbi eas distinguished...he was boss during 9/11...and his time in the barrell just might come.

Poor example.

Ant...
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I'm sorry, Trey Gowdy is what? He is a very respected and senior Republican mate. Just because he isn't a full blown ass hat and can't be bought by Trump does not make him unsound. He has a long standing history of civil service, not dissimilar from Mueller actually.
 
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Roger Perry

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Farmers in California have been having a tough time over the last few years, huge amounts of water that was used traditionally for ag now has to be diverted out thru the Sacramento delta to sustain a small fish species (Pacific smelt)
Having driven the Donner pass and seen the huge amount of snowpack that feeds the central valley the President is correct to condemn the action that puts this tiny fish over food production.

So laugh all you want to, ignorance of the facts is no excuse.
 
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wanton dwarf

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ollie989898 said:
He needs the ABM bases to site radars. :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

Also, having US weapons sited elsewhere than the US mainland is useful strategically, hence the deployment of US nuclear weapons in foreign countries.

And you are still not getting the point of any of this anyway; US overseas bases further their foreign policy.
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As stated now the third time .. these bases are not all ABM radar sites nor are the personnel all operating ABM radar sites.

Repeating the same falsehood multiple times does not change a fact.
 
ollie989898

ollie989898

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wanton dwarf said:
As stated now the third time .. these bases are not all ABM radar sites nor are the personnel all operating ABM radar sites.

Repeating the same falsehood multiple times does not change a fact.
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I think what I posted was rather difficult to misconstrue but somehow you managed- try again: he needs the ABM bases to site radars

IE, the implication is that he needs these specific bases not just to park machinery on, or put personnel there, but for siting early warning radars. Without them, any plan for even a modest effort at missile defence will be severely curtailed.

You also make no mention of the strategic important of pre-placed nuclear weapons nor the use of foreign bases as an extension of US foreign policy but that doesn't suit your peculiar agenda, does it?
 
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wanton dwarf

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ollie989898 said:
I think what I posted was rather difficult to misconstrue but somehow you managed- try again: he needs the ABM bases to site radars

IE, the implication is that he needs these specific bases not just to park machinery on, or put personnel there, but for siting early warning radars. Without them, any plan for even a modest effort at missile defence will be severely curtailed.

You also make no mention of the strategic important of pre-placed nuclear weapons nor the use of foreign bases as an extension of US foreign policy but that doesn't suit your peculiar agenda, does it?
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Fourth time.

The USA does not need to put in Naval Bases, Infantry or the Air force bases to create ABM bases.

So Trump is free to reduce USA costs in Europe regardless of what you say.

In other words you are wrong .. again.
 
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wanton dwarf

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ollie989898 said:
You also make no mention of the strategic important of pre-placed nuclear weapons nor the use of foreign bases as an extension of US foreign policy but that doesn't suit your peculiar agenda, does it?
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If Trump decides USA foreign policy is not to support European countries which don't pay their way in NATO .. then that is USA foreign policy.

My agenda is pointing out the you don't control USA policy in Europe or how the USA decides NATO's worth.
 
ollie989898

ollie989898

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wanton dwarf said:
If Trump decides USA foreign policy is not to support European countries which don't pay their way in NATO .. then that is USA foreign policy.

My agenda is pointing out the you don't control USA policy in Europe or how the USA decides NATO's worth.
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You just don't get it, do you?

Trump does not control the military, nor foreign policy as much as you might like to think. Interestingly, I see the USA has just added sanctions on Russia in response to the Skripal poisonings, as a result of pressure from Congress.

You don't understand US foreign policy, nor the usefulness of NATO; I think we can agree on something there. Those bases will remain, their purpose goes way beyond supporting European countries; they are staging areas that extend the global reach of the US military. You get that? The American populace might actually be safer due to the fact they have operational air-force assets in Germany or Turkey?
 
ollie989898

ollie989898

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wanton dwarf said:
Fourth time.

The USA does not need to put in Naval Bases, Infantry or the Air force bases to create ABM bases.

So Trump is free to reduce USA costs in Europe regardless of what you say.

In other words you are wrong .. again.
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LULZ.

You can't just put a radar somewhere and walk away mate. They require operators and security. Are you going to leave that to the indigenous population of Turkey, for example?

Likewise, having nuclear weapons in storage in Germany, you don't appreciate why that might be: 1. A big deterrent to someone and 2. Be operationally useful?

Why in the hell don't you go away and learn something before bringing a paper plane to an airshow?
 
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wanton dwarf

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ollie989898 said:
LULZ.

You can't just put a radar somewhere and walk away mate. They require operators and security. Are you going to leave that to the indigenous population of Turkey, for example?

Likewise, having nuclear weapons in storage in Germany, you don't appreciate why that might be: 1. A big deterrent to someone and 2. Be operationally useful?

Why in the hell don't you go away and learn something before bringing a paper plane to an airshow?
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You don't 50,000 USA soldiers in Germany to man an ABM base .. you've lost the plot.
 
ollie989898

ollie989898

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wanton dwarf said:
ZZZzzz

That doesn't mean Trumpy can't move them where he wants ..
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Well, with such well reasoned and erudite arguments, why would anyone even bother to hold an alternate view?

It is worth noting that the US overseas deployment posture was being evaluated was back during the Presidency of President Bush Jr; in response to the perceived needs of the on-going campaign against Terrorism. Forces have been shuffled around for various reasons, cost being one of them, de-escalation is clearly another. On the other hand, some existing bases are being improved or expanded in terms of their capabilities, often in countries, who I note, are not NATO members at all?

https://www.brookings.edu/research/...erseas-military-presence-in-the-21st-century/

The GPR’s objectives are to enhance American military capability and flexibility for the so-called long war on terror, to deal with major shifts in the global alignment of power in Asia, to keep traditional partnerships strong while building up new partnerships with countries of Eastern Europe and Africa and parts of Central Asia, and to improve the quality of life for American military personnel.

The above was written in 2008- Captain Bone spurs can't claim it as his idea.
 
TelesnaAg

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Trump was spot on with the lack 9f controlled burning in California, this is a widely known fact, Australia and California fire depts share alot...the greenies did the same here and we lost 200 people in black saturday 10 years ago....all thats changed now.

The sanctions over skipral is a front for something else....This will develop....skippy is a bogus event..

Ant...
 
ollie989898

ollie989898

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TelesnaAg said:
Trump was spot on with the lack 9f controlled burning in California, this is a widely known fact, Australia and California fire depts share alot...the greenies did the same here and we lost 200 people in black saturday 10 years ago....all thats changed now.

The sanctions over skipral is a front for something else....This will develop....skippy is a bogus event..

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Please, tell us why the sanctions are now in place, since you seem to know more than the actual state department.
 

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