Triticale

mdagri · Jul 19, 2018

Thinking of growing some triticale for the first time as a second cereal.
We are on heavy ground with some black grass pressure but are making substantial inroads into it with an extended rotation and 2 spring crops.
Thought the vigor and crop height of triticale would be a useful tool in the continued fight against BG.

Anyone had much experience with it?
Was it difficult to market?

Any thoughts or advice would be most appreciated.

mikep · Aug 20, 2018

mdagri said:
Thinking of growing some triticale for the first time as a second cereal.
We are on heavy ground with some black grass pressure but are making substantial inroads into it with an extended rotation and 2 spring crops.
Thought the vigor and crop height of triticale would be a useful tool in the continued fight against BG.

Anyone had much experience with it?
Was it difficult to market?

Any thoughts or advice would be most appreciated.

If you've had ergot in your crops before then you will find triticale is a bit of a magnet for it. Sells reluctantly at a discount best get a buyer first.

Landrover · Aug 20, 2018

Grow it here (north Northumberland/Scottish borders) instead of second wheat on light ground, best performing crop this year, seed is expensive, but apart from that it's good, masses of straw, yielded as well if not better than second wheats and our local buyer takes it for feed wheat price

mdagri · Aug 21, 2018

Landrover said:
Grow it here (north Northumberland/Scottish borders) instead of second wheat on light ground, best performing crop this year, seed is expensive, but apart from that it's good, masses of straw, yielded as well if not better than second wheats and our local buyer takes it for feed wheat price

That sounds promising. If you are getting same price as feed wheat that is excellent. Is your local buyer a merchant or livestock farmer?

Did it clash with wheat harvest?

Landrover · Aug 21, 2018

Local merchant buys it, early harvest after w.barley but before rape here. Others could be different tho. We only grow it on the lightest ground tho don't know what it would be like on heavier stuff

Northdowns Martin · Aug 21, 2018

Different story for me at least down south, very difficult to get rid, quite a discount from feed wheat. no ergot issues and its not a take all brake as lead to believe. Seed crops being grown in Kent are going to AD plant crops which are then whole cropped.

Ruston3w · Aug 22, 2018

Vigor and loads of straw later but with very high seed costs - low seed rates, lots of open ground for bg all winter?
I gave up with it for that reason, as well as rubbish value and tough to shift.

James W · Oct 8, 2018

mdagri said:
Thinking of growing some triticale for the first time as a second cereal.
We are on heavy ground with some black grass pressure but are making substantial inroads into it with an extended rotation and 2 spring crops.
Thought the vigor and crop height of triticale would be a useful tool in the continued fight against BG.

Anyone had much experience with it?
Was it difficult to market?

Any thoughts or advice would be most appreciated.

We are growing it because it's takeall tolerant and with massive root system it's a natural subsoiler without having to get into catch cover crops. Means that on cleanest land can drill it into green volunteer wheat stubble early. Question is has anyone grown wheat after triticale ? Also Britain imports 2milion ton animal feed and exports just 1million tonnes .. after Brexit selling triticale shouldn't be a problem.

moretimeforgolf · Oct 9, 2018

James W said:
We are growing it because it's takeall tolerant and with massive root system it's a natural subsoiler without having to get into catch cover crops. Means that on cleanest land can drill it into green volunteer wheat stubble early. Question is has anyone grown wheat after triticale ? Also Britain imports 2milion ton animal feed and exports just 1million tonnes .. after Brexit selling triticale shouldn't be a problem.

We've grown winter wheat after spring triticale. The wheat had a fair few triticale volunteers in it but it still got through as full spec milling. There was a bit of takeall but the yield was only down about 1/2 -2/3t/ha compared to wheat following osr. The spring triticale was grown for seed, it had a decent margin and was competitive against everything bar ryegrass (glyphosate required!). We have done it slightly differently this year, the triticale stubbles had a shallow pass with the carrier to reduce the hairpinning when wheat drilling.

James W · Oct 9, 2018

moretimeforgolf said:
We've grown winter wheat after spring triticale. The wheat had a fair few triticale volunteers in it but it still got through as full spec milling. There was a bit of takeall but the yield was only down about 1/2 -2/3t/ha compared to wheat following osr. The spring triticale was grown for seed, it had a decent margin and was competitive against everything bar ryegrass (glyphosate required!). We have done it slightly differently this year, the triticale stubbles had a shallow pass with the carrier to reduce the hairpinning when wheat drilling.

thats really interesting info thankyou. I have heard back from 2 grain merchants who both said to mix it in with feed wheat and they take at same price but not into distilling wheat.

Laminated · Oct 31, 2018

I grow it as a seed crop. That’s spring trit. Yields around 3t per acre and get £30 over feed wheat for it. Great extra crop for rotation

James W · Nov 1, 2018

Laminated said:
I grow it as a seed crop. That’s spring trit. Yields around 3t per acre and get £30 over feed wheat for it. Great extra crop for rotation

That's excellent plan

bobk · Nov 1, 2018

Landrover said:
Local merchant buys it, early harvest after w.barley but before rape here. Others could be different tho. We only grow it on the lightest ground tho don't know what it would be like on heavier stuff

Where's here ffs .

John Slejpner · Nov 2, 2018

Out of interest, can seed be farm saved?

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