Concrete wall under feed barrier

Chips · Jul 9, 2018

Currently building a shed for youngstock and will have self locking yokes for heifers from 10-20 mths of age , the steels in the shed are ten inches , is this too wide to shutter to make the wall under the barrier , my builder says he can pack the shutters so that the wall is only 6 inches , which will mean one side will not be flush and so make either cleaning the muck out or feed barrier a little trickier . So is ten inches too much for the cattle to feed over as it certainly looks like it would be , and if so which side would you keep flush , feed or cattle side ?

simmy_bull · Jul 9, 2018

Chips said:
Currently building a shed for youngstock and will have self locking yokes for heifers from 10-20 mths of age , the steels in the shed are ten inches , is this too wide to shutter to make the wall under the barrier , my builder says he can pack the shutters so that the wall is only 6 inches , which will mean one side will not be flush and so make either cleaning the muck out or feed barrier a little trickier . So is ten inches too much for the cattle to feed over as it certainly looks like it would be , and if so which side would you keep flush , feed or cattle side ?

I would say it’s NOT too thick imo. As you say if you make it any narrower cleaning out will be a pain. How high is the metal work to be off the floor? Can you keep the wall slightly low which will help to create an “angled” top to the wall in effect and allow them to reach down and in close. But 10m or bigger will reach over a 10inch wall in any case I would of thought.

Have you any heifers inside at the moment of that age range whereby you could build a false set up (timber?) to feed them and see what dimensions works?

tr250 · Jul 9, 2018

We have one made from concrete blocks which are 9" and it's ok for cows but perhaps a bit too wide for Youngstock to reach

Tarw Coch · Jul 9, 2018

Not quite the same thing but we have timbers underneath the barriers that are narrower than the shed posts but the feed passage is 4 inches higher than the cattle standing with the concrete for the feed passage going through to flush with the inside of the steels so the scraper can run down the inside without catching in the girders whilst the timbers are packed out to the outside of the girders so you can scrape down the feed passage without catching the girders. The same could be done in concrete although timber is quick, cheap and effective.

Andrew · Jul 10, 2018

Can you not make it 10” wide, however high you need for the feed barrier then slope it down to the feed side? Would make it easier for them to reach and be a bit self cleaning?

fermerboy · Jul 10, 2018

We have a wall under locking yokes. We borrowed a shutter with tapered ends for the job, leaves a 6 inch wall. It's a good tidy job, we mounted the yokes as we did the pour so the supports are in the shutter wall.
Put the straight side to the muck and the taper ends to the feed pass.
Will get a pic later.
I think that if I was doing a pass again I'd just buy a 6" 600mm high concrete panel and mount it in between the uprights.Think you need double stressed ones though.
Assuming you are putting the wall and barrier between the beams on the inside side,, consider mounting the yokes at an angle across the upright, leaning out. Quite a few done like that hereabouts.
Gives the cattle a bit more reach.

Pan mixer · Jul 11, 2018

We put half metre panels (100mm wide) on the cattle side of the post (but still within the flange) and built the trough floor up 8 inches

Pan mixer · Jul 12, 2018

Edit, I miss- remembered, took a photo for you today, no trouble with 6 month olds.

That kerb on the cattle side is 8 inches high - so the same height as the bottom of the feed trough, they clean right up usually but they went outside this Spring without cleaning up and I will have to address that matter before they come in again - probably.

Forever Fendt · Jul 12, 2018

Chips said:
Currently building a shed for youngstock and will have self locking yokes for heifers from 10-20 mths of age , the steels in the shed are ten inches , is this too wide to shutter to make the wall under the barrier , my builder says he can pack the shutters so that the wall is only 6 inches , which will mean one side will not be flush and so make either cleaning the muck out or feed barrier a little trickier . So is ten inches too much for the cattle to feed over as it certainly looks like it would be , and if so which side would you keep flush , feed or cattle side ?

10" will be fine,Bolt the yoke on the inside flange at the bottom and on the outside at the top so yoke is leaning forward cattle will reach that bit further,Leave about a 15mm gap between bottom tube and top of wall so you can adjust the neck width clamps easy

P.O.T · Nov 4, 2018

What did you decide to do in the end @Chips? Got the same situation here and 10inch seems wide to me.

Chips · Nov 4, 2018

P.O.T said:
What did you decide to do in the end @Chips? Got the same situation here and 10inch seems wide to me.

My builder tapered the wall in from the post ,so ten inches down to six inches over about one foot of length IYSWIM

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