strip till soil movement

JD6920s

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They did put the seed wider of the splitter boot, definitely n yes when things start coming up it's a wider row ,
As far as stress goes on the c tine not sure we didn't snap any legs with those shares on, only time that has happened was with a bean share on.

All I will say is they do move a fair bit more soil than a 7 inch share,

I’ve got a set to try out now so I may do a couple of runs with a 7” on too for a comparison when it’s up.
 

JD6920s

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Any news on your 9 inch a share seed rows.?

Well, I’ve just taken some pics this morning, there is a difference, it’s not huge but it does show

7”
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9”
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I swapped them on the tramline to the right of the tree, they do give noticeably more soil movement, and spread slightly wider, but I guess are limited to the spreader boot working width.
This is Graham WW after OSR sown AT 260 seeds/m on 4/10/18 at 10kph.
 

Brisel

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What else is different? Any noticeable increase in hp requirement? Have you modified the splitter seed boot for the extra width? Did you fit stronger bolts to the Borgault knock on adapter or Claydon C tines?
 

JD6920s

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Shropshire
What else is different? Any noticeable increase in hp requirement? Have you modified the splitter seed boot for the extra width? Did you fit stronger bolts to the Borgault knock on adapter or Claydon C tines?

Nothing else different, not noticeable difference in pulling,
No alteration to splitters,
No bolts changed on anything,
And no problems with anything in 180 acres of drilling with them, and tbh very little wear showing, but we have been Claydon drilling since 2011, so soil improving year on year.
 
Well, I’ve just taken some pics this morning, there is a difference, it’s not huge but it does show

7”View attachment 735578

9”View attachment 735580

I swapped them on the tramline to the right of the tree, they do give noticeably more soil movement, and spread slightly wider, but I guess are limited to the spreader boot working width.
This is Graham WW after OSR sown AT 260 seeds/m on 4/10/18 at 10kph.
Not sure if it's the pics but the narrow one seems greener? Where you'd expect the wider to look greener with more soil movement? Is there a colour difference?
 

juke

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DURHAM
Not sure if it's the pics but the narrow one seems greener? Where you'd expect the wider to look greener with more soil movement? Is there a colour difference?

looking at the pictures it could be a trick of the camera if you look at the lighting in the background there ….
looking good there @JD6920s
 

JD6920s

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Shropshire
Not sure if it's the pics but the narrow one seems greener? Where you'd expect the wider to look greener with more soil movement? Is there a colour difference?

It’s the camera, I tried to get it identical lighting, but you only have to tilt it a bit and it changes, then before you can click it’s changed itself again, there is no visible colour difference in the field.
 

juke

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@JD6920s thats gonna be a good crop of wheat hopefully I don't have any experience with that variety but if it's anything like Skyfall for vigour and tillering those wider rows could just give that extra ground cover through the winter , establishment looks great there, have you used a robust pre em package ? Looks very clean
 

JD6920s

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Shropshire
@JD6920s thats gonna be a good crop of wheat hopefully I don't have any experience with that variety but if it's anything like Skyfall for vigour and tillering those wider rows could just give that extra ground cover through the winter , establishment looks great there, have you used a robust pre em package ? Looks very clean

Hopefully, fingers crossed, used DFF, PDM and Flufenacet.
 

juke

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DURHAM
Wider tines will chit plenty of BG IMO, I distinctly remember @Feldspar famous photo showing massive BG chit in rape just where the share had travelled.

They do move considerably more soil, the 7 inch share will move across just over 52 percent of the soil in the working width where as the 9 inch blade moves across 68 percent of the working width. Has to be a greater effect on the germination of weed seeds , going from moving just over half the area moved to almost 2/3.

Plus sides are extra mineralisation and the ability to plant companion crops from a secondary seeder into a friable surface also the slightly wider row
 

JD6920s

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Wider tines will chit plenty of BG IMO, I distinctly remember @Feldspar famous photo showing massive BG chit in rape just where the share had travelled.

Fortunately we don’t suffer from blackgrass, but we have had trouble with Italian ryegrass over the years, which we are making great progress in eradicating with a wider rotation, utilising overwinter cover crops which are then destroyed for a good clean up and followed with Spring Oats at the moment.
I posted this photo sometime ago of a headland that’s always been an ongoing problem with IRG, even when we used to plough
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This area of grass has reduced dramatically since then but we have to remain vigilant keeping our eye on it, having good crop competition and make the most of getting a chit after harvest with regular raking.
 

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