TB

Dr. Alkathene

Member
Livestock Farmer
Make no mistake, there are badgers being "saved" by antis and relocated north. I'm sure as we slowly clear up the south, areas up north will learn what ball ache we've been going through.
Locally had a number of badgers suddenly appear in an area that no one alive remembers seeing badgers in or within ten or twelve miles of. It also happens to be 5 mins from a motorway junction. Car has been seen parked in gateway and people letting them out of cages lifted out the boot :mad::mad::mad::banghead::banghead::banghead:
 

pappuller

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
M6 Hard shoulder
We’ve gone TB free. I was just going to post this in all things dairy thread. But I thought feck it I’ll start a new thread so perhaps antisWho I have no doubt read this forum may notice it.
In theory we are now onto annual testing for the first time in 10 years for the first six years of that each year the TB got worse then the cull started in our area. Since then our incident of TB has dropped year on year here with us going clear in the spring three years in a row only to fail in autumn but with less cases each time. Then this feb we went clear and now our 2irs has gone clear this autumn meaning we haven’t had a cow with TB for 14 months.
So if proof was needed that the cull has a place in the eradication of TB we are living proof of it.

So today I have mixed feelings. I’m elated that we in theory don’t have to put our stock through the misery of testing for a whole yr.
but I’m also angry. Angry at the NFU and MAFF for allowing this insidious disease to spread when it was so very nearly eradicated. Angry at our politicians for designating the badger a protected species without considering the consequences it would have on the balance of the countryside and those of us who derive a living from it. Badgers hedgehogs ground nesting birds have all suffered as a direct result of this interference.
Lastly I’m angry at those how ever well meaning who think the life of a badger is worth more than the life of one of my cows. To you I say congratulations for the misery you have cause many people and cattle over the last number of yrs and not forgetting the infected badgers who have been suffering and playing their part in spreading this devastating disease within their community and beyond. I hope you have the decency to admit and reflect on the role you have played in it’s spread at a time when maybe just maybe we are getting to grips with it.
Excellent post @lazy farmer and pleased you are seeing some light at the end of the tunnel
 

frederick

Member
Location
south west
Can anyone see a time or reason when the protected status might be lifted? I've talked to ecologists who think that as there are so many badgers around, the status detracts from those protected creatures who's numbers are genuinely under threat.

Never. It just wont fly in parliament and a national debate no matter what the arguments for it. However we do have the disease control options and as Lazy has demonstrated it is working.

Lifting protected status could quite easily have a negative affect on TB with small scale peacemeal culling actually increasing the problem.
 

vantage

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Pembs
Never. It just wont fly in parliament and a national debate no matter what the arguments for it. However we do have the disease control options and as Lazy has demonstrated it is working.

Lifting protected status could quite easily have a negative affect on TB with small scale peacemeal culling actually increasing the problem.
Well it certainly won't happen in Wales if the boyos in the Bay have anything to do with it!
 

Alfred

Member
Never. It just wont fly in parliament and a national debate no matter what the arguments for it. However we do have the disease control options and as Lazy has demonstrated it is working.

Lifting protected status could quite easily have a negative affect on TB with small scale peacemeal culling actually increasing the problem.
All very true!.
 
The badger cull has gone exceptionally well around here, with the best efforts of the people involved (which involves no small amount of clip-boarding I can tell you) they have easily accomplished their cull total with time to spare. For obvious reasons nobody can name names but I do hope some of them get to read this thread and receive the appreciation they deserve. It has taken a lot of time and a great deal of effort, firstly to get all the host farmers signed up and second to organise the process itself. I can only imagine the grief involved and not just because of officials and their paperwork and rather perplexing rules regarding the cull.

If the Antis want to help I would suggest the trap and relocate the badgers to areas of the country where there are no cattle. It is as simple as that. Spending millions of tax payers money destroying perfectly healthy cattle without controlling the other main vector is ridiculous. The number of people I encounter who do not have the faintest idea that badgers themselves suffer terribly from TB astounds me, and they are easily educated because of the very fine website one very fine individual has created at their own expense, which details the disease in badgers and the morbidities involved with some excellent photographs as well. I only wish someone would anonymously produce some youtube videos demonstrating badgers suffering with TB, perhaps with the use of long distance photography. It is a hideous way for them to die and there is no shortage of them about.
 

Alfred

Member
Please everyone , this is an exceptionally good thread, BUT DO REMEMBER TO JUST THINK ABOUT THE COMMENTS YOU ARE POSTING!!!
(IE. The post that will hopefully disappear above @Hampton)
 

frederick

Member
Location
south west
Those badgers relocated north won’t get very far, rifleman in Cheshire told me they’d shot 1000 badgers in the first couple of nights a few weeks back. I dream of the day we go back to 4 yearly testing [emoji7]

Not sure returning to 4 year testing would be something i would ever want to risk. I will quite happily test annualy and go clear than risk a nasty suprise after 4 years
 

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