Guttler press wheel question

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Ruston3w

Member

Location

south suffolk

• Nov 11, 2018

• #1

I know the topic won't be well received here but here goes- I am struggling to find the best press wheels for my Kv cultistrip which we run for sugar beet. It came with zero-press tyres which were ok on sand but left anything a little better too flat for the drill(double disc)
After that we copied some cage rollers with chains instead or bars, these are better and good at breaking up lumps but still not good at creating a little loose where there is some moisture (headlands,tramlines, patches with poor cc,,etc.)
What does anyone think of fitting a pair of smaller Guttlers close together? would they "pluck "at the surface enough to help the drill?
Thanks in advance, Richard.

 

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Bill Turtle

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Mixed Farmer

Location

Essex

• Nov 12, 2018

• #2

I don’t know if this is any help but, for this years beet preparation I purchased a used 6 metre maschio power Harrow which happened to be fitted with a guttler press roller on the back. I wanted a barrel roller.
Having used it and seen this years beet I am very happy with the results. The guttler leaves the ground most firm at depth and slightly more loose on the surface.
I drilled into that with a Kleine unicorn double disc drill and had very good results. I was worried when I bought the power harrow that the guttler press roller wouldn’t suit my heavy soil, but in practice it has not been a problem; I appreciate this is nothing to do with strip till.

 

Andrew K

Member

Arable Farmer

Location

Essex

• Nov 13, 2018

• #3

Bill Turtle said:

I don’t know if this is any help but, for this years beet preparation I purchased a used 6 metre maschio power Harrow which happened to be fitted with a guttler press roller on the back. I wanted a barrel roller.
Having used it and seen this years beet I am very happy with the results. The guttler leaves the ground most firm at depth and slightly more loose on the surface.
I drilled into that with a Kleine unicorn double disc drill and had very good results. I was worried when I bought the power harrow that the guttler press roller wouldn’t suit my heavy soil, but in practice it has not been a problem; I appreciate this is nothing to do with strip till.

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Use one on a Weaving Sub disc, good finish and low risk of blocking.

 

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Ruston3w

Member

Location

south suffolk

• Nov 13, 2018

• #4

Thanks for the replies, do you think 2 could be got to run together close enough to pack one cultivated strip..around 4"-5"?
It's really just a problem on the odd patches of the field which are less friable, trouble is they all add up, of course.
Bill-we also run a Kleine, it started out with finger press wheels,, now converted back to zero press rubbers, what coverers do you use?

 

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Bill Turtle

Member

Mixed Farmer

Location

Essex

• Nov 13, 2018

• #5

Mine has finger press wheels, which is what was fitted when I purchased it secondhand.
I originally bought it when I was direct drilling and built a strip till rig with an up and over piggyback linkage to strip till and drill in one pass

 

Badshot

Member

Location

Kent

• Nov 13, 2018

• #6

You could put two guttlers back to back to create a single press maybe?

 

Simon Chiles

DD Moderator

Location

Surrey/ Kent Border, UK

• Nov 15, 2018

• #7

Badshot said:

You could put two guttlers back to back to create a single press maybe?

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Firstly I ought to point out that I’ve no idea about the machine the OP is on about but surely fixing the Guttlers front to front, possibly with a spacer between them if needed, would be a better solution to closing a slot behind a tine?

 

Alistair Nelson

Member

Mixed Farmer

Location

E Yorks

• Nov 15, 2018

• #8

Talk to the Tom Dale at Dale Drills they ran Guttler's for a year or 2 on there drills side by side from memory before producing there own single wide fabricated ring. really nice people and very approachable they'll be able to advise you best or you may find there wheels might suit your application

 

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Ruston3w

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Location

south suffolk

• Nov 16, 2018

• #9

Thanks for your interest, a couple of pics of the Kverneland-
I spoke to the Guttler people earlier, though having walked on a JD/guttler drilled field yesterday I am not sure if they are aggressive enough?
Would you say that forward speed made a difference to how they behave? The Kv has six legs inline and is hard to pull for what it is, I did borrow a bigger tractor two years ago but with speed comes too much heave as well as even tighter headlands.....

Richard