New Political Party led by farmers and other such local rural people

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
It's about time a law was drafted to stop these 'career politicians' standing for election. IMHO, candidates should have a 10 year qualifying period in a 'proper job' before seeking election.

anyone who wants to be a politician should automatically be banned from doing so !

I would argue that the country would be better run by successful business men and women but that doesn't seem to be going so well in the USA right now !

I like your idea that any MP should have to have had at least 10 years of management level experience in an industry before being allowed to stand for election however

More controversially I guess I don't think politics pays enough to attract the best, and surely we want the very best running our country doesn't we ?
 

Farmer Roy

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
NSW, Newstralya
I share your view that food, farming and health should be at the centre of the political agenda. That's why I am a card- carrying member of The Green Party.

the Greens are the only Party in Australia that take that position as well (y)
while not "card carrying", I have certainly voted for them in recent elections
one of their local candidates was actually a broadacre grain & cotton farmer ( female )
due to our issues with coal mines, gas exploration & concerns over climate change & climate policy, many farmers here are now becoming more sympathetic towards the greens, at the expense of the traditional conservative parties that purport to "represent" farmers . . .
 

Daniel

Member
Been glancing through the manifesto of the Social Democratic Party.
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thesilentone

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Cumbria
In general we are very lucky, however we don't know that. Many Countries are corrupt, have very few public services or any form of future vision to share with the masses.

We appear to be bereft of ideas at the moment, we do not appear to have a leader who shares passion and a vision with ambition.

John Major lumped us with ' Political Correctness ', the Insurers and Unions have made Elf and Safety self defeating and a hard hat and hi-viz the national dress.

Politics is practiced in a bubble that is called London, where no matter what, there is culture of ' you scratch my back ' - why are our regulators so inept ?

Who sits on the Renumeration Committee's, why are Government subsidised industry profits being paid to shareholders ?

Along with the free movement of the masses, World Migration and Wars, the World is changing quickly, so are Communities and peoples expectations.

Why are our OAP's left to struggle and who decided that Universal Credit was a good idea ?

Who is responsible for the chaos on our public transport, no trains on time, no public transport for rural dwellers.

Why do the County Councils think they don't have to fill in the potholes, then pee our money away on harebrained nonsense schemes.

We need people who will work together for the common good, as opposed to the current system.


- Must go, the white van has arrived -
 
I have said this thread is not about politics but rather about wether the farming community etc has the right leaders to do something better than what we have at present..

The comments thus far seem to suggest either we just leave the problem for others to deal or the problem is too big or there are organisations who are already looking after farmers interests

Its not about the Conservative right, The Labour left or Lib Dems in the middle because most of these leaders have pretty similar views in many key areas and the point I was trying to make is that the system is so broken that are we a suitable group to do something different

I spend a lot of time overseas (especially in Africa) so know what dodgy politics looks like first hand but if in my home country I just watch it getting worse is that the legacy I want to leave to my Children?

Inner city areas also want and need strong leaders and I really think if there is engagement then people will follow common sense, proven leadership which I think our community can give

Maybe I will just do my bit and stand as an independent......
 
I'm not sure that there is a unified "common sense" movement in the countryside. I remember at the time of the Countryside March nearly 20 years ago, the local estates and countryside organizations put on coaches to take everyone to London.There was a feeling in the air that we were part of a movement taking country values to the townies.
However,the reality, as it seems to me , is that the unity was an illusion. Deep down, I have no real affinity with foxhunters or snipe shooters, although I respect their views. It just isn't for me. The fishing folks came with us on the day, but they have become rabidly anti-agriculture on their diary blog as they look for reasons for the decline of the fish in the river.
The landlord who encouraged us all to get together on the march for country values (ie his shooting :) )has served notice on all his grazing tenants to enable him to rewild the valley and take the payments for capital work on his fishing channels- he openly tells us that farming on the estate is dead and the future lies in fishing money and leisure, so the sooner we go, the better.
The horsey folks who came along have their own agenda, and farming and horsey girls don't always get along if the livery threads on here are anything to go by.
Now, everyone I meet is perfectly intelligent and knowledgeable about their own areas of interest, but all have differing views and aims. Just look at these B+++++ threads . Just because folks have polarised views doesn't mean they are unintelligent or insincere, but I don't see a unified party.
 

Still Farming

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
South Wales UK
I have said this thread is not about politics but rather about wether the farming community etc has the right leaders to do something better than what we have at present..

The comments thus far seem to suggest either we just leave the problem for others to deal or the problem is too big or there are organisations who are already looking after farmers interests

Its not about the Conservative right, The Labour left or Lib Dems in the middle because most of these leaders have pretty similar views in many key areas and the point I was trying to make is that the system is so broken that are we a suitable group to do something different

I spend a lot of time overseas (especially in Africa) so know what dodgy politics looks like first hand but if in my home country I just watch it getting worse is that the legacy I want to leave to my Children?

Inner city areas also want and need strong leaders and I really think if there is engagement then people will follow common sense, proven leadership which I think our community can give

Maybe I will just do my bit and stand as an independent......
Thread states :New Political Party ?
Then you say this thread NOT about Politics ?
Mixed messages possibly?
 
I'm not sure that there is a unified "common sense" movement in the countryside. I remember at the time of the Countryside March nearly 20 years ago, the local estates and countryside organizations put on coaches to take everyone to London.There was a feeling in the air that we were part of a movement taking country values to the townies.
However,the reality, as it seems to me , is that the unity was an illusion. Deep down, I have no real affinity with foxhunters or snipe shooters, although I respect their views. It just isn't for me. The fishing folks came with us on the day, but they have become rabidly anti-agriculture on their diary blog as they look for reasons for the decline of the fish in the river.
The landlord who encouraged us all to get together on the march for country values (ie his shooting :) )has served notice on all his grazing tenants to enable him to rewild the valley and take the payments for capital work on his fishing channels- he openly tells us that farming on the estate is dead and the future lies in fishing money and leisure, so the sooner we go, the better.
The horsey folks who came along have their own agenda, and farming and horsey girls don't always get along if the livery threads on here are anything to go by.
Now, everyone I meet is perfectly intelligent and knowledgeable about their own areas of interest, but all have differing views and aims. Just look at these B+++++ threads . Just because folks have polarised views doesn't mean they are unintelligent or insincere, but I don't see a unified party.


Fair enough. Without some sort of unity its dead in the water and we all keep doing our own thing
 
The present situation keeps reminding me of the civil war era which we studied at enormous length at school. Part of the population decided it was time for a radical shake-up, part stood up for the way things were, while most just wanted to go about their business in peace.
Once the great decision had been made to cut off the King's head, no-one knew exactly what to do as things didn't get much better and after 10 years of a republic, there was no-one with the authority or presence to run things and parliament were in a shambles- so in true British style, we all had another referendum and brought back the King to wild rejoicing.
On a positive note, they turned the situation into something better eventually, with checks on both sides, and the turmoil led to our eventual greatness, the invention of Australia and New Zealand, King Charles Spaniels, etc, etc :)
 

Ffermer Bach

Member
Livestock Farmer
I think most would think it's a good idea and would also say it would never work. Maybe as a community we should take a more positive approach to things. If we don't try we will never know if it doesn't work.
Problem is, we in the countryside are such a small percentage of the population, we can never out vote the urban majority, so we are forced to take the laws that suit their prejudices.
 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

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  • 100% I’ve had enough of farming!

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Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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As reported in Independent


quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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