Empty 10,500sqft barn...self storage?

cgfw201

Member
Hi
So we have an empty barn on our farm. Used to be a cattle shed, but not had any cows init for 10 years now, and since has just been used for ad-hoc storage of random farm machinery and bales.

We're now looking into options for something which will generate a bit more revenue from it.

The initial thought was installing Self Storage units. The farm is inside the M25, just off a busy road (20k cars per day go past), and there's a few very wealthy towns within a 5 minute drive, none of whom currently have a self storage facility. There's over 500k people who live within 20 minute drive.

Initial research on this suggested that we could convert about 3000sqft of the barn to self storage for around £50k, which includes all the units, levelling the floor, toilet installation, electrics, cctv and lighting.

Reports from the SSA (Self Storage Association) suggest the average net annual rent for the area is approx £25-£30 per square foot.

These numbers make this option look very appealing. At just 50% occupancy, the first 3000sqft trial units should be able to make around £40k a year revenue. If that goes well, installing a further 5500sqft of units up to a total 8500sqft lead to a potential annual yield of just over £200k. Obviously, getting to 100% full is not easy, and reality would be a lot less, at least to start with.

However, we don't really know how realistic this is, at all. Self Storage seems appealing as it has low staffing requirements and is a growing industry. But it is also very possible that 2 years down the line there's not enough clients in place to make the money we need.

If you had an empty barn in a location like this, what would you do? Converting to warehousing is also an option, but conscious of the much lower rent/sqft potential that has.

Any thoughts much appreciated.
 

cgfw201

Member
Is there a gap in the market? My understanding is SS is plentiful and cheap. What about running costs and insurance, people coming and going.

Looking locally I think there is a gap. It's also an industry that's grown each year for the past few years, and average occupancy is up near 80% nationally, which suggests in principle it is a service that will continue to be demanded.

But it's hard to be sure without an expert opinion. Everyone who makes/sells self storage units that I've spoken to reckon it's a no brainer and is a fast way to becoming filthy rich, and a few people I've spoken to who have done it have had mixed experiences. None of which is surprising.
 

B R C

Member
Arable Farmer
Inside the M25 you have big demand for industrial units if you can devide the shed up in to 4-8 units I should think you’ll be able to get minimum £6/ft, more if units are smaller or can do some office space. Once let not much work, self storage in multiple small lots would be a business you would have to work at, constant marketing, dealing with lots of people. I guess it comes down to whether you want to run another business(or have a manager which would reduce profit), or have relatively passive income.Look at Bidwells website for examples of converted farm buildings for rent. There must be plenty of your neighbours letting buildings already? Everyone does it round here!
 

cgfw201

Member
Inside the M25 you have big demand for industrial units if you can devide the shed up in to 4-8 units I should think you’ll be able to get minimum £6/ft, more if units are smaller or can do some office space. Once let not much work, self storage in multiple small lots would be a business you would have to work at, constant marketing, dealing with lots of people. I guess it comes down to whether you want to run another business(or have a manager which would reduce profit), or have relatively passive income.Look at Bidwells website for examples of converted farm buildings for rent. There must be plenty of your neighbours letting buildings already? Everyone does it round here!

That is definitely an option. Lower £/sqft in exchange for more regular income and less hassle with the public.

Our biggest issue with this is our totally hopeless broadband connection, a business would never be able to function properly from here.
 
You can fix broadband if enoug users are on it - grants available.

We have a bit of storage but £30 PST sounds bonkers.

I would get a commercial agent out and see what they think, I’d go for a blend but focus on a few anchor tenants and then fill the gaps. If it’s close to home you will tire of endless cars going by your door all the time.

Get a few main guys in and you get to know them, one big family.

We were where you are now a few years ago, you won’t Reget it, just don’t skimp on costs and get advise first
 

cgfw201

Member
Incredible that your inside the M25 and lack of decent broadand is an issue.

Annoying right. Because it's basically 3 houses 1 mile from the exchange, they aren't too keen to spend the money to upgrade the line. Normally on around 0.5mb download speed.
 
Hi
So we have an empty barn on our farm. Used to be a cattle shed, but not had any cows init for 10 years now, and since has just been used for ad-hoc storage of random farm machinery and bales.

We're now looking into options for something which will generate a bit more revenue from it.

The initial thought was installing Self Storage units. The farm is inside the M25, just off a busy road (20k cars per day go past), and there's a few very wealthy towns within a 5 minute drive, none of whom currently have a self storage facility. There's over 500k people who live within 20 minute drive.

Initial research on this suggested that we could convert about 3000sqft of the barn to self storage for around £50k, which includes all the units, levelling the floor, toilet installation, electrics, cctv and lighting.

Reports from the SSA (Self Storage Association) suggest the average net annual rent for the area is approx £25-£30 per square foot.

These numbers make this option look very appealing. At just 50% occupancy, the first 3000sqft trial units should be able to make around £40k a year revenue. If that goes well, installing a further 5500sqft of units up to a total 8500sqft lead to a potential annual yield of just over £200k. Obviously, getting to 100% full is not easy, and reality would be a lot less, at least to start with.

However, we don't really know how realistic this is, at all. Self Storage seems appealing as it has low staffing requirements and is a growing industry. But it is also very possible that 2 years down the line there's not enough clients in place to make the money we need.

If you had an empty barn in a location like this, what would you do? Converting to warehousing is also an option, but conscious of the much lower rent/sqft potential that has.

Any thoughts much appreciated.
Why not let it as a single unit for storage?
One Tennant less folk walking about your yard and less set up costs
If you are in that sort of population density I’d say you would get a good rent
 

D14

Member
Hi
So we have an empty barn on our farm. Used to be a cattle shed, but not had any cows init for 10 years now, and since has just been used for ad-hoc storage of random farm machinery and bales.

We're now looking into options for something which will generate a bit more revenue from it.

The initial thought was installing Self Storage units. The farm is inside the M25, just off a busy road (20k cars per day go past), and there's a few very wealthy towns within a 5 minute drive, none of whom currently have a self storage facility. There's over 500k people who live within 20 minute drive.

Initial research on this suggested that we could convert about 3000sqft of the barn to self storage for around £50k, which includes all the units, levelling the floor, toilet installation, electrics, cctv and lighting.

Reports from the SSA (Self Storage Association) suggest the average net annual rent for the area is approx £25-£30 per square foot.

These numbers make this option look very appealing. At just 50% occupancy, the first 3000sqft trial units should be able to make around £40k a year revenue. If that goes well, installing a further 5500sqft of units up to a total 8500sqft lead to a potential annual yield of just over £200k. Obviously, getting to 100% full is not easy, and reality would be a lot less, at least to start with.

However, we don't really know how realistic this is, at all. Self Storage seems appealing as it has low staffing requirements and is a growing industry. But it is also very possible that 2 years down the line there's not enough clients in place to make the money we need.

If you had an empty barn in a location like this, what would you do? Converting to warehousing is also an option, but conscious of the much lower rent/sqft potential that has.

Any thoughts much appreciated.

The same setups in Northants only achieve £16/sqft with a 70% occupancy.
 

Al R

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
West Wales
Annoying right. Because it's basically 3 houses 1 mile from the exchange, they aren't too keen to spend the money to upgrade the line. Normally on around 0.5mb download speed.

I know nothing of self storage but I’m literally at the end of a beaten track on the coast, 5 miles from nearest exchange but we put in a dish (like commercial WiFi) set up by a small local firm supplying mainly farms and outlying houses, cheaper than BT were and were at 80mb.
There would be someone like this near you for sure? They have permission off the local farmers with the highest sheds in the areas, even the churches and they boost off each other around the county to guarantee a signal for someone else.
 

farmerdrew

New Member
There's a company called Barnstore that do a kind of franchise thing where they take care of all the marketing for the units - might be worth looking at - they will give a steer on numbers as well I think (although watch out for overselling like most franchise do). https://www.storagemonkey.co.uk/locations/ also list prices so you can take a look at what you might get. I've thought about it a few times but think we're too rural
 

TREVD

New Member
Location
Powys
The question I would like to ask is what’s the position with the council etc with business rates. You have a big job to keep something like this off their radar !!
 

chaffcutter

Moderator
Arable Farmer
Location
S. Staffs
If you want a good return without a big investment such as that needed for self storage, I would bet in your area that there would be a massive demand for secure storage for caravans, RV s, boats etc ?

Seems a good return for little effort imo
 

sandspider

Member
Location
Chepstow
I know nothing of self storage but I’m literally at the end of a beaten track on the coast, 5 miles from nearest exchange but we put in a dish (like commercial WiFi) set up by a small local firm supplying mainly farms and outlying houses, cheaper than BT were and were at 80mb.
There would be someone like this near you for sure? They have permission off the local farmers with the highest sheds in the areas, even the churches and they boost off each other around the county to guarantee a signal for someone else.
Could you tell me what the company is please, and it would be useful to have some idea of monthly cost? We're in East Wales, and our internet connection is shite!

Thanks.
 

Deutzdx3

Member
A friend converted several of his barns into car high end storage. Does very well from it. Doesn’t have lots of people in and out all the time. Has a variety of vehicles from 2cv for formula 1 cars stored.

Or convert it to self storage contained units. Down side to that is managing it. What ever you do it’ll earn you more than leaving it empty.
 

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