Help - shoot burning pheasants and feeding them to my pigs!!

vinnie123 · Dec 31, 2018

thousands and thousands of game birds are being shot and dumped every week of the season, the market is completely saturated . More game is being promoted on menus and in supermarkets which is great but consumption is no where near keeping up with the numbers shot per week.
Can anybody here make a constructive argument defending a 500 bird day’s shooting?
As a fox hunting person I would be the last person to kick up a fuss over someone else’s sport but the sh!t we hunters receiv3 on a weekly basis is going to be the shooting worlds problem if this sort of nonsense hits the press, it’s a matter of time imo

ollie989898 · Dec 31, 2018

Should have taken photographic evidence and confronted the shoot owner about it. That is just not on and they need to stop shooting. Nonsense like that will get it banned.

There is no constructive argument for shooting hundreds of birds per day, they aren't even a native bird and the gamekeeper kills everything else to keep them alive.

michael N123 · Dec 31, 2018

If someone has the shooting rights on your land that surely dosnt give them the right to have bonfires on it does it ?

You’ve many different angles to complain from

ollie989898 · Dec 31, 2018

Threaten them, tell them if they don't stop you are going to send the pictures to the daily mail.

michael N123 · Dec 31, 2018

ollie989898 said:
Threaten them, tell them if they don't stop you are going to send the pictures to the daily mail.

If your going to threaten them with the Dailey mail you’d want some cash to be keeping quiet to

Dry Rot · Dec 31, 2018

I heard of a case where someone was feeding raw meat to pigs (beef offal). Animal Health inspectors were down like a ton of bricks taking faeces samples. Never heard the outcome but they were very quickly onto the case and took it very very seriously.

But to play Devil's Advocate, I think it is quite a problem for a shoot to get rid of shot game. It is not as simple as giving the birds away. I am not 100% sure of my facts, but I am pretty sure any game going for human consumption has to be disposed of through a licenced game dealer, premises have to be licenced, regularly inspected, plus the whole gamut of red tape, so dumping is the cheapest option.

Unless the shooting community tidies it's act, legislation is sure to follow.

kiwi pom · Dec 31, 2018

Trouble is its always the game keeper that gets in the s*it not those in funny coloured trousers that shoot them, then want nothing to do with the food they've just shot. Birds should be divided up between the guns and taken away, most wouldn't know what to do with them of course but at least it would be them that got in the s**t when they dumped them.

glasshouse · Jan 1, 2019

Suffolk Serf said:
It is of course illlegal to feed meat, raw or cooked to pigs. I very much doubt that it will have done them any harm though- mine have been known to be a bit quicker than the pickers up.

What is wrong though is the complete lack of respect that the keeper has shown to you, your pigs and the shot pheasants.

Nothing new there

Dry Rot · Jan 1, 2019

kiwi pom said:
Trouble is its always the game keeper that gets in the s*it not those in funny coloured trousers that shoot them, then want nothing to do with the food they've just shot. Birds should be divided up between the guns and taken away, most wouldn't know what to do with them of course but at least it would be them that got in the s**t when they dumped them.

I ran shoots for the oil companies before the tax man clamped down on tax relief for entertaining foreign nationals. None took their brace home with them as they'd p[rpbably flown in from the USA or Norway. I got to look like a bloddy pheasant with all the game stew I ate! It is not so easy even giving them away and it all takes time but none were buried or burnt. You can't force people to take them. They do need to get the disposal organised in advance so it is not a last minute problem.

Pasty · Jan 1, 2019

Is it my imagination or are modern pheasants also smaller and thinner? Maybe to promote higher, faster flying? Looking at some around here, they would be worth plucking unless had all the gear.

Fiveospades · Jan 1, 2019

I agree, reared birds are not as big as a natural wild birds, and yes they do fly faster. I am becoming nervous of this thread as as sure as eggs are eggs the anti shooting lobby will be able to pick out the pieces that would fuel their fire and be away to the newspapers once again scoring a few points.

Treg · Jan 1, 2019

faircomment said:
There is a fair chance they are the birds that are not fit to go to the game dealer due to being shot to close?

Local beater sells them to the butcher & local restaurants & still says alot are dumped

Smith31 · Jan 1, 2019

Raw meat. ..pigs. ....any one remember how foot and mouth started last time

Treg · Jan 1, 2019

Smith31 said:
Raw meat. ..pigs. ....any one remember how foot and mouth started last time

Government Lab

Northeastfarmer · Jan 1, 2019

Disgusting....boils my p!ss

Pasty · Jan 1, 2019

Pheasants can't survive in the UK. If none were put down they would be all gone in a few years. I just think the breeding has made them smaller and faster and ultimately of less use meat wise.

Bobthebuilder · Jan 1, 2019

main reason they are smaller is they haven't had time to grow/fatten before they're shot, we have a walk around with maybe 12/15 people and a few dogs, nothing put down all wild or come in from next doors release pen and you can certianly tell the difference between 1 to 2 maybe 3yr old birds size wise

spin cycle · Jan 1, 2019

Dry Rot said:
I heard of a case where someone was feeding raw meat to pigs (beef offal). Animal Health inspectors were down like a ton of bricks taking faeces samples. Never heard the outcome but they were very quickly onto the case and took it very very seriously.

But to play Devil's Advocate, I think it is quite a problem for a shoot to get rid of shot game. It is not as simple as giving the birds away. I am not 100% sure of my facts, but I am pretty sure any game going for human consumption has to be disposed of through a licenced game dealer, premises have to be licenced, regularly inspected, plus the whole gamut of red tape, so dumping is the cheapest option.

Unless the shooting community tidies it's act, legislation is sure to follow.

proper disposal is very easy surely.....fallen stock collector

Dry Rot · Jan 1, 2019

Pasty said:
Pheasants can't survive in the UK. If none were put down they would be all gone in a few years. I just think the breeding has made them smaller and faster and ultimately of less use meat wise.

From old books, it seems that during the 17th century pheasants almost became extinct due to over hunting!

Tarw Coch · Jan 1, 2019

Smith31 said:
Raw meat. ..pigs. ....any one remember how foot and mouth started last time

Pigs eating raw meat did not start foot and mouth, pigs eating imported meat from animals that had foot and mouth did.
There’s a lot wrong with what’s going on here but a possible cause of foot and mouth it isn’t

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