25cm row spacing

Spud

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
YO62
err, hows this for zero disturbance ?
on 333 mm spacing
PS - planting canola ( OSR )
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pretty much zero disturbance here as well, apart from the blocked row on the end
when this machine is humming nicely the only way you can find the plant row is from the effect of the heavy chain harrows dragging some stubble

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That's low disturbance, not zero disturbance. Zero means not touched at all.
 

Banana Bar

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Arable Farmer
Location
Bury St Edmunds
Lots of work done on wider spacing in US and Oz. All suggest as yield potential increases wider rows have a larger negative impact on yield. Albeit these yields are generally between 2 and 5 t / ha.
 

York

Member
Location
D-Berlin
over here the organics did do research on row spacing.
soils: black soi. like Ukraine
as they wanted to do row mulching & weeding with harrows they used various row width.
Aiming for a yield potential of 10t/ha wheat there was no yield sacrifice up to a row spacing of 250mm. since Vaderstad with the Seed Hawk has proven in northern Germany that 10 t/ha is with 250mm spacing possible the topic of row spacing has lost it's big arguments.
York-th.
 

f2tmg

New Member
We run a Mzuri on heavy clay which had bad blackgrass here with 300mm spacings and using the narrow points, the blackgrass is a shadow compared to before and let us cut fungicide right back certainly didn't affect yield
 

James999

Member
Quite happy drilling on 25cm, been doing it for a couple of years with Metcalf points on a co6. We're on Bedfordshire clay, definitely less BG between the rows I think partly due to less growing and partly due to the pre ems working better on in disturbed ground. The first year we drilled with them I double drilled some at half rate at about 30 degrees to give an indication of closer spacing, no difference in BG or yield but bushel weight was better on the wide spaced stuff.
What HP do you recon is needed? Looking at converting a co8 to Metcalf points
 

ajd132

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Suffolk
240 on our VOS co6 conversion ............ often wish we had bought and converted a co12, tractor would cope I think

slow and wide is better than faster and narrow with tines IME
Having run a 12m sprinter I think 240hp would be a bit too much of an ask!
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Having run a 12m sprinter I think 240hp would be a bit too much of an ask!

would be on the limit for sure but if just a tool bar and front hopper as our co6 has ended up maybe posible

8m or even 9m would be no problem, 240hp is overkill for our 6m setup even on the hilly bits
 

BTT UK Ltd

Member
Trade
would be on the limit for sure but if just a tool bar and front hopper as our co6 has ended up maybe posible

8m or even 9m would be no problem, 240hp is overkill for our 6m setup even on the hilly bits
240 on our VOS co6 conversion ............ often wish we had bought and converted a co12, tractor would cope I think

slow and wide is better than faster and narrow with tines IME
250 will be fine I would have thought
Have you considered Bourgault VOS. The design and the where the Carbide is placed means this system is less HP hungry.
 

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