The Meaningful Vote

Walterp

Member
Location
Pembrokeshire
Is now meaningless, because it's already lost by all accounts.

But before next week, is anyone prepared to stake their judgement on:

1. by what margin will Theresa May fail in her attempt to ratify her Agreement?

2. what will be the nature of her 'Plan B'?

I'll go first - yes 250, no 380. Theresa May needs to lose by less than 166 to avoid begetting the biggest Commons defeat ever. 'Ever' as in ever.

Then an application to extend Article 50, before reporting back on what the EU27's conditions may be.
 

turbo

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
lincs
They will lose the vote on Tuesday by a big margin,chuck a more amendments in and it will pass at the second vote,nothing scares more of parliament than a commie corbyn government and I include a lot of his own party in that so the deal will be done
 

jendan

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Northumberland
Is now meaningless, because it's already lost by all accounts.

But before next week, is anyone prepared to stake their judgement on:

1. by what margin will Theresa May fail in her attempt to ratify her Agreement?

2. what will be the nature of her 'Plan B'?

I'll go first - yes 250, no 380. Theresa May needs to lose by less than 166 to avoid begetting the biggest Commons defeat ever. 'Ever' as in ever.

Then an application to extend Article 50, before reporting back on what the EU27's conditions may be.
I think she will lose by a smaller margin.Dont know about the numbers but i think more Tories will vote for it but hold their noses at the same time...........(could be wrong though)
 

bobk

Member
Location
stafford
I think she will lose by a smaller margin.Dont know about the numbers but i think more Tories will vote for it but hold their noses at the same time...........(could be wrong though)

Not sure about that , personally think the defeat will be 200+ , maybe then something will get done .

BTW the EU have said nothing will change for 9 months after brexit day . :scratchhead:
 

Hindsight

Member
Location
Lincolnshire
Where have they said that?,and how will nothing change for 9 months?


I presume he is referring to EU announcements of arrangements in the event of a No Deal departure to help ease some of the potential confusion, delays etc. Think the haulage notice referred to 9 months for trucks to roll without change. Maybe that is where the 9 months comes from. Hey ho.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46617152
 

jendan

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Northumberland
I presume he is referring to EU announcements of arrangements in the event of a No Deal departure to help ease some of the potential confusion, delays etc. Think the haulage notice referred to 9 months for trucks to roll without change. Maybe that is where the 9 months comes from. Hey ho.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46617152
I have a fair few hoggs to sell,which will probably run past March29.I would sleep easier if i thought things would stay the same for another 9 months.
 

Hindsight

Member
Location
Lincolnshire
I have a fair few hoggs to sell,which will probably run past March29.I would sleep easier if i thought things would stay the same for another 9 months.


I attended a conference yesterday with two speaker on the subject (AHDB and NFU) I took it that these EU no deal plans may assist with truck and airplane movements etc, but that if we depart on March 29 with no deal the more serious issue of tariffs will apply from March 30 - which will be interesting to say the least with sheepmeat. But as ever it was not totally clear. Presume someone on here will know exactly what happens on March 30 in event of no deal departure. Afraid sheep do not really affect me, so you have my sympathies.
 

bobk

Member
Location
stafford
I attended a conference yesterday with two speaker on the subject (AHDB and NFU) I took it that these EU no deal plans may assist with truck and airplane movements etc, but that if we depart on March 29 with no deal the more serious issue of tariffs will apply from March 30 - which will be interesting to say the least with sheepmeat. But as ever it was not totally clear. Presume someone on here will know exactly what happens on March 30 in event of no deal departure. Afraid sheep do not really affect me, so you have my sympathies.

Under WTO we can reduce tariffs to zero if we wish unilaterally , even with tariffs no lamb maybe leaving the UK but neither is any coming in .
 

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As reported in Independent


quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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