Egg prices dropping again.

marcot

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Bury St Edmunds
It is if you use your fatuous standard.

If you put every newborn child in a padded cell, fed it a precisely regulated diet, maintained the temperature at exactly the right level, didn’t let it have any contact with anyone who hadn’t showered in and out of the room etc, you could probably reduce mortality rates to more or less nothing and raise the average lifespan to 120 years.

But it’s a rubbish way to live, same goes for a chicken.
Hmmmm doesn't sound to bad to me ....nice and warm ...ad lib food ...no irritating idiots to put up with.... no one coughing and sneezing and infecting me with lurgies...where do I sign up?
P.s I'm definitely up for it if I can have a hooker drop by once a week [emoji3]
 

Chae1

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Aberdeenshire
It is if you use your fatuous standard.

If you put every newborn child in a padded cell, fed it a precisely regulated diet, maintained the temperature at exactly the right level, didn’t let it have any contact with anyone who hadn’t showered in and out of the room etc, you could probably reduce mortality rates to more or less nothing and raise the average lifespan to 120 years.

But it’s a rubbish way to live, same goes for a chicken.
But they don't know any different?
 
It is if you use your fatuous standard.

If you put every newborn child in a padded cell, fed it a precisely regulated diet, maintained the temperature at exactly the right level, didn’t let it have any contact with anyone who hadn’t showered in and out of the room etc, you could probably reduce mortality rates to more or less nothing and raise the average lifespan to 120 years.

But it’s a rubbish way to live, same goes for a chicken.

We are not talking about newborn children , We are talking about laying Hens that can be housed in Barns where they can perform all of their natural behaviours or Enriched Cages where they can perform most of their natural behaviours

It is not my fatuous standard , it is a fact that free range egg production is the dirtiest most diseased way to produce eggs and is not good for the welfare of the birds compared to other systems
 

Daniel

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From the BFREPA text service:

‘Oakland reduces the price to producers of medium eggs again by 10 pence on 'Worst Christmas ever for industry'.

Very Large are raised by 7p and large by 2p.’
 

Billboy1

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Would like to get into free range eggs for varying reasons am I mad !
I understand it’s not good at the moment but how bad is it ?
If you’re on a 16000 bird unit with a bowler type franchise ( or any other) are you actually losing dollar ? Or not making as much as you’d like to
 

Grassman

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Derbyshire
Would like to get into free range eggs for varying reasons am I mad !
I understand it’s not good at the moment but how bad is it ?
If you’re on a 16000 bird unit with a bowler type franchise ( or any other) are you actually losing dollar ? Or not making as much as you’d like to
At least your asking the questions before doing it!
I wouldn't even waste any more time.
It will get a lot worse before it gets better. Too many have gone into free range recently. As cages have been phased out there are not the cheaper eggs about so free range have gone down in price to fill that market. That's how it feels. May not be exactly that. Some others will know far better than me.
There is some local to me delivering free range eggs, one dozen at a time, for £1.50 a dozen. No wage in that.
 

Daniel

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Would like to get into free range eggs for varying reasons am I mad !
I understand it’s not good at the moment but how bad is it ?
If you’re on a 16000 bird unit with a bowler type franchise ( or any other) are you actually losing dollar ? Or not making as much as you’d like to
Would like to get into free range eggs for varying reasons am I mad !
I understand it’s not good at the moment but how bad is it ?
If you’re on a 16000 bird unit with a bowler type franchise ( or any other) are you actually losing dollar ? Or not making as much as you’d like to

You need a production contract before anything else, has someone offered you one?

If so what are they paying for eggs and what are you paying for feed? Can you buy your feed + pullets where you like or are you tied to the packers own mill and rearing operation?

Until you have these numbers you can’t budget.

You’ll have the highest cost eggs as you have the most modern equipment, will that make you money when the competition can’t?
 

nonemouse

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North yorks
but they are promising a 10% return on investment, how can you fall off? :banghead::banghead::banghead:

£250k return on £2.5 build cost (think you might be struggling to build a 64k bird site at that and your also forgetting the value of 84 acres of land tied to the project).
So after 10 years you will have got your £2.5 million back but chances are the equipment will be half knackered, the site will have minimal value and you probably be about ready for a refit to keep producing.

Not saying it isnt possible to make money from hens, but it aint all roses, and probably the profitable part of warrendales operation could be "wot a pullet"
 
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Daniel

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but they are promising a 10% return on investment, how can you fall off? :banghead::banghead::banghead:

£250k return on £2.5 build cost (think you might be struggling to build a 64k bird site at that and your also forgetting the value of 84 acres of land tied to the project).
So after 10 years you will have got your £2.5 million back but chances are the equipment will be half knackered, the site will have minimal value and you probably be about ready for a refit to keep producing.

Not saying it isnt possible to make money from hens, but it aint all roses, and probably the profitable part of warrendales operation could be "wot a pullet"

Isn’t the farm owned by the MD of Vencomatic UK? They are hardly going to make a song and dance about a thumping loss in year one!
 

nonemouse

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North yorks
I've been out of the poultry industry too long to know who owns what, to honest I'd not heard to wot a hen before your post, going on what is on their website it etc it would not surprise me if there was a tie up with vencomatic somewhere,
 
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