Kuhn fbp 3135 vs MF lely tornado

James

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Location
Comber, Down
Baler went faultlessly from when it arrived in July , done 4000 odd bales and I'm over the moon with bale quality and so are the customers, the ones who used film on film don't won't to see net again and others wanting to use it this year , the 3D wrapper put more wrap on the barrel of bale then the mchale orbital system
And rotor feeding the baler is best I have used

Has it given any bother?
I would have really liked to try one but no demo available and not being 100% sure of dealer back up meant I didn't.
 

Peppa pig

Member
Location
Castle douglas
Yes it uses standred plastic we calculated saving of €4100 on 10000 bales also if you run out at 2 am or Sunday it's available everywhere
Will this baler be coming with a single axle at some point.it has many plus points over its competitors systems.how many layers of wrap are people puting on the bales with the wrapper??does the barrel wrap work out a similar price to net if you use 2 rolls at £55 each how many bales does it do with 3 turns??
 
Will this baler be coming with a single axle at some point.it has many plus points over its competitors systems.how many layers of wrap are people puting on the bales with the wrapper??does the barrel wrap work out a similar price to net if you use 2 rolls at £55 each how many bales does it do with 3 turns??
2 rolls of film does around 155 average
I find that if you do 3 on barrel and 5 on wrapper on 3D setting that you're getting a lot better cover then 6 layers with mchale and works out around same price
But quality of silage this year is best I have had , not a spot of mould
Using Michale 6 layers at the moment feeding and most are fine the odd one has little mould
 

Peppa pig

Member
Location
Castle douglas
2 rolls of film does around 155 average
I find that if you do 3 on barrel and 5 on wrapper on 3D setting that you're getting a lot better cover then 6 layers with mchale and works out around same price
But quality of silage this year is best I have had , not a spot of mould
Using Michale 6 layers at the moment feeding and most are fine the odd one has little mould
That sounds good.anyone i speak to using a three plus are using 3 layers and 4 on wrapper.speak to the wrap sales reps they dont like it at all they say to get the benefit you still need 6 layers with wrapper so 6 layers plus barrel wrap is expensive.i can see the kuhn machines advantages.would the longer pro rolls of wrap fit on for barrel wrap??
 
That sounds good.anyone i speak to using a three plus are using 3 layers and 4 on wrapper.speak to the wrap sales reps they dont like it at all they say to get the benefit you still need 6 layers with wrapper so 6 layers plus barrel wrap is expensive.i can see the kuhn machines advantages.would the longer pro rolls of wrap fit on for barrel wrap??
Yes used the longer rolls of kuhn wrap that come with the machine , can't remember now how many bales I was getting out of them
Big advantage is to be able to put 4/5/6 layers on
I probably will try 4 layers on the wrapper this season for my own use , remember there is a big difference with 3 layers of proper film on the barrel compared to the cling film
 

BDBed

Member
Location
Melton Mowbray
I went to kuhn for the wrapping system and film on film plus more reliable dealer back up if I needed it

I went for the baler I could try and dealer back up. Vicon didn't have a flexiwrap to bring me. They did want to bring a fast bale but I need a variable chamber. Lely re post above. Pottinger not available. Mchale bought the demo and even when I was a bit slow in making my mind up and they sold the demo, got my a baler for the beginning of September. Plus a great deal!
 

Peppa pig

Member
Location
Castle douglas
Yes used the longer rolls of kuhn wrap that come with the machine , can't remember now how many bales I was getting out of them
Big advantage is to be able to put 4/5/6 layers on
I probably will try 4 layers on the wrapper this season for my own use , remember there is a big difference with 3 layers of proper film on the barrel compared to the cling film
I work on alot of steep or sloping land very few fields you could run fusion on full auto thats why id prefer a single axle.do you find transfer or wrapping slower than fusion.think i will need to have a few demos this season lol.
 

BDBed

Member
Location
Melton Mowbray
I know it's not really helpful as Kuhn may have changed transfer. But the Mchale is quite a bit fast than my Vicon 2190 bp. But the Mchale is harder to make a nice shaped bale although better density.
 
I work on alot of steep or sloping land very few fields you could run fusion on full auto thats why id prefer a single axle.do you find transfer or wrapping slower than fusion.think i will need to have a few demos this season lol.
I'm in west Wales which isn't very flat !! A lot of banks going straight into the sea !
Can hardly ever run on full auto either
I'm bailing banks that mchale was bailing no bother and find the 2 axle good , baler lower to the ground then fusion plus wide baler on 560 tyres
Transfer not noticed any slower
Slightly slower on same layers of wrap if you're on 3D setting ( which I think is well worth the extra few seconds)
But same speed on normal setting
Better intake rotor so no slip clutch going off on corners or lumpy rows
 

Peppa pig

Member
Location
Castle douglas
I'm in west Wales which isn't very flat !! A lot of banks going straight into the sea !
Can hardly ever run on full auto either
I'm bailing banks that mchale was bailing no bother and find the 2 axle good , baler lower to the ground then fusion plus wide baler on 560 tyres
Transfer not noticed any slower
Slightly slower on same layers of wrap if you're on 3D setting ( which I think is well worth the extra few seconds)
But same speed on normal setting
Better intake rotor so no slip clutch going off on corners or lumpy rows
Thanks.good your doing bales for yourself to see the results and try the diffrent options you have of wrapping them.its all interesting.
 

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