It will come
Be able to watch them move while sat in the beach if that flicks your switch
You don't think this job is going to be un complicated do you ?
"Improving Our Lot" - Planned Holistic Grazing, for starters..
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Be able to watch them move while sat in the beach if that flicks your switch
You don't think this job is going to be un complicated do you ?
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
Micro troughs, cows push the plate down to get water so they don't waste water, or have a lot hanging around to go green
Any more pics?
I Take it they are just plumbed in above a water pipe ?
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
Most of mine are polled, my Tanzy family was kicked out of the breed society for being polled in the fifties & the then keeper of them (Mary Furness) started a new breed society for polled Shorthorns , they were welcomed back into the main society in the sixties when they thought maybe not having horns was a good ideaDon't want to get into a breed debate here but the one thing that puts me off shorthorns is the second part of their name
My Poynings family come from a pure dairy Shorthorn herd ( now only 120 left in the Uk
) were they all have horns, not keen on horns myself but that herd looks amazing There's 2 types of polled cattle in the breed homozygous & hemozyous ( Not really sure of that spelling) Homo will throw polled calves, Hemo 50/50 chance of polled . Lots of bulls are now tested for being Homogenous.
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- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
Yes, they have a stamp that goes on a post-driver, it has a big plug that countersinks the trough with a knife that opens up for the water pipe - trough screws down onto a tee fitting.
So to move the trough - this one has been on a lean or leaking in the past and cattle have made a hole, so will put a straight joiner in and move the trough down a way.
6000 cells have about 1500 of these, one per 4 cells
Going off that map they have a 14-lane system, each mob has 30 cells up and 30 cells back. Believe ot or not, they are going to cut all those cells in half again, this winter
so it must be working alright.Left phone behind when we went for a ride around on the bikes, amazing how fast you can get around when you can drive through fences and not have to go around stuff - free as a bird..
They have one and a half systems closed up for winter time already, I asked about the water system:
They have one bore and a river pump for the stockwater, pumps up to tanks by the homestead at about 60m of head
Gravity fed via double 63mm into 40mm for the mains, and then 25mm for the arterial stuff, 7 lines per system
But shifting stock,
worth every cent invested.We literally moved half the cattle in 40 minutes.
I didn't get a snap of the contoured bits of the ranch, not steep by any means but quite ugly stuff, the edge of a river terrace.
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
Back home, I can see the effects of bunching them up.
I notice it's much more even than before, and the litter is just smashed down rather than lain over - and they et the weeds .
Next grazing due in April for these areas.
n.w
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- Location
- western isles
Many years ago I worked on a dairy farm in Essex and my first job [in the winter] was to collect a trailer full of apples which were being discarded from the local fruit packing factory. we fed them straight to the milking cows
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That's utterly fascinating, I'm trying to picture 30 tons of seaweed on an acre
I put 30 tons of beef on quarter an acre, and it groans, so that's quite an impressive mental exercise.
I'm a bit "different", you'll figure that out soon, if you haven't already
Agreed 30 tons does seem a bit excessive but as you can see from the photo the land is very sandy... incidentally its a struggle to use seaweed now as there is so much plastic rubbish in it..
I didn't know you could get polled shorthorns. I'd have no worries about using a homozygous polled one
- Location
- Derbyshire
Just going to say the same as @onesiedale , amazing picture but very sad there's so much plastic in the seaweed.
- Location
- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
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n.w
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- Location
- western isles
Cheers, we are very lucky, i think that pic was taken last May, its been great weather here today though, me and the missus and the kids [for a couple of hours] have been cutting back some neglected willow, we have about 2 acres of SRC which we retail for cuttings and basketry, also use it for free range table hens.
As you say its a shame how much plastic there is floating about
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Missus and spaniel after the sun went in today
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- Location
- Denbighshire - In the vale of Clwyd!
He (greg judy) did indeed say that about the non-weaning - i tried it with the sheep this year - I think itll take a few years to get it down pat - but we didnt get 1/2 as many away as i would have liked - that could have been down to me fudging (too tight too early) up or the hot summer....but it depends if you want to - i could see maybe an oppotunity for a hogget style system where you maintain the flock through winter - possibly getting them onto a nearby arable crop or something else.
Im wrapping my head around a field atm which was poor last year - and since autumn when rested its done buggerall - low rabbit grazed stuff and moss - with a compacted layer from over/undergrazing at about 4 in.... which im likely going to get a subsoiler in to speed thigs up as i dont have cows.
However what are your thoughts as to throwing the stock on it in the next week or 2 before spring just for anmal impact ??
ive got a few small bales that i can use to feed in the area as a fallback.
Im wrapping my head around a field atm which was poor last year - and since autumn when rested its done buggerall - low rabbit grazed stuff and moss - with a compacted layer from over/undergrazing at about 4 in.... which im likely going to get a subsoiler in to speed thigs up as i dont have cows.
However what are your thoughts as to throwing the stock on it in the next week or 2 before spring just for anmal impact ??
ive got a few small bales that i can use to feed in the area as a fallback.
awkward
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- Location
- kerry ireland
Try planting some radish
I can see it being ok for sheep as they don't milk as long anyway but don't see how it works with cows that milk well which is what I am looking for
careful with the subsoiler if you have stone drain's
- Location
- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
Has this been posted before?
If the compaction is only 4inches or so down you could try and find someone with one of those roller/slitter type things.
I'm surprised that it's compacted like that after a dry summer and some recent hard frost though. Usually any shallow compaction like that is sorted by one or the other here. Usually a hard frost in winter.
I'm surprised that it's compacted like that after a dry summer and some recent hard frost though. Usually any shallow compaction like that is sorted by one or the other here. Usually a hard frost in winter.