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I don’t understand what your saying you first quote was for live weight then you seem to be estimating a dead weight???

What he said. (below) Sold on half weights.

They will be sold on half weights like they used to in the days of sub. So if the lambs were 22 at half weights they would have been 44 or 46 live weights depending on how they work it out. In the days of the grader they used to knock 1 or 2 kilos off depending on how they thought they would kill out
 

andybk

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Could you explain why they sell like this as it’s guess work as opposed to a actual weight on the scales?
Very surprised this happens
its what always used to happen under variable premium , as sub was paid on actual usable carcase ,less bone, wool , fat guts etc better killing out % in continentals always paid better deadweight is why they became so popular .
Live weighting in marts you could be buying a lot of unusable lamb .
 
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its what always used to happen under variable premium , as sub was paid on actual usable carcase ,less bone, wool , fat guts etc better killing out % in continentals always paid better deadweight is why they became so popular .
Live weighting in marts you could be buying a lot of unusable lamb .
Thanks for that but why are they still selling under these conditions?
 

andybk

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Thanks for that but why are they still selling under these conditions?

abattoirs still work deadweight , they always have , 17-22.5 kg carcass , as these cut up fit the poly trays for supermarkets , marts sell liveweight , and why there has been so much controversy over the scales , a few kg knocked off over the bridge will pay buyers better , make up for full guts and wet fleece and make mart report look better .which penalises better k/o% continentals with tighter fleeces and lighter bone , though buyers tend to know these types and pay a bit more as they are more consistent carcases , That big boned wooly suffolk / hamp might look a champ at the ram sales but will hinder you at the fat market .
 

glensman

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abattoirs still work deadweight , they always have , 17-22.5 kg carcass , as these cut up fit the poly trays for supermarkets , marts sell liveweight , and why there has been so much controversy over the scales , a few kg knocked off over the bridge will pay buyers better , make up for full guts and wet fleece and make mart report look better .which penalises better k/o% continentals with tighter fleeces and lighter bone , though buyers tend to know these types and pay a bit more as they are more consistent carcases , That big boned wooly suffolk / hamp might look a champ at the ram sales but will hinder you at the fat market .
All markets sell prime lambs half weight over here (n.ire)
 
abattoirs still work deadweight , they always have , 17-22.5 kg carcass , as these cut up fit the poly trays for supermarkets , marts sell liveweight , and why there has been so much controversy over the scales , a few kg knocked off over the bridge will pay buyers better , make up for full guts and wet fleece and make mart report look better .which penalises better k/o% continentals with tighter fleeces and lighter bone , though buyers tend to know these types and pay a bit more as they are more consistent carcases , That big boned wooly suffolk / hamp might look a champ at the ram sales but will hinder you at the fat market .
I know how the markets work and the slaughter houses work but I’ve never come across this way of halving their weight surely this is up to the buyers to decide and earn their commissions just seem all a bit on the buyers side not the sellers
 

glensman

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North Antrim
I know how the markets work and the slaughter houses work but I’ve never come across this way of halving their weight surely this is up to the buyers to decide and earn their commissions just seem all a bit on the buyers side not the sellers
The buyers pay more or less per kilo according to quality, just the same as if their full weight was called out/on the screen. It makes no difference to the price, I'm guessing it makes it easier to value lambs for buyers.
 
The buyers pay more or less per kilo according to quality, just the same as if their full weight was called out/on the screen. It makes no difference to the price, I'm guessing it makes it easier to value lambs for buyers.
How does the calculation work throughout the year on say fed lambs as opposed to off grass lambs they still half it ?
 

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