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yellowbelly · Mar 15, 2019

Old Tip said:
In the days of the grader they used to knock 1 or 2 kilos off depending on how they thought they would kill out

....or how much he liked/disliked you

Old Tip · Mar 15, 2019

yellowbelly said:
....or how much he liked/disliked you

Too true, you didn’t want to upset him

Gedd · Mar 15, 2019

J 1177 said:
Does anyone know what bulls and clean were like in Darlo?........or dare I not ask.

Mate selling not very flash

george 600 · Mar 15, 2019

Woodheads-4p.
Foyle Angus back 4p but clean stand on.

matthew · Mar 15, 2019

d williams said:
I don’t understand what your saying you first quote was for live weight then you seem to be estimating a dead weight???

What he said. (below) Sold on half weights.

Old Tip said:
They will be sold on half weights like they used to in the days of sub. So if the lambs were 22 at half weights they would have been 44 or 46 live weights depending on how they work it out. In the days of the grader they used to knock 1 or 2 kilos off depending on how they thought they would kill out

LAMBCHOPS · Mar 15, 2019

Leyland255 said:
Dunbia Wales lambs Mon Welsh £4.30
British £4.20

Is the Welsh price just for female thieve lambs or having a welsh tag ??

livestock 1 · Mar 15, 2019

jendan said:
Just to recap simply,will we pay tariff on lamb going into the EU after Mar29? either with no deal,any deal,or an extension to Art 50?

Extension possible election possible second ref although that’s unlikely

d williams · Mar 15, 2019

matthew said:
What he said. (below) Sold on half weights.

Could you explain why they sell like this as it’s guess work as opposed to a actual weight on the scales?
Very surprised this happens

andybk · Mar 15, 2019

d williams said:
Could you explain why they sell like this as it’s guess work as opposed to a actual weight on the scales?
Very surprised this happens

its what always used to happen under variable premium , as sub was paid on actual usable carcase ,less bone, wool , fat guts etc better killing out % in continentals always paid better deadweight is why they became so popular .
Live weighting in marts you could be buying a lot of unusable lamb .

d williams · Mar 15, 2019

andybk said:
its what always used to happen under variable premium , as sub was paid on actual usable carcase ,less bone, wool , fat guts etc better killing out % in continentals always paid better deadweight is why they became so popular .
Live weighting in marts you could be buying a lot of unusable lamb .

Thanks for that but why are they still selling under these conditions?

andybk · Mar 15, 2019

d williams said:
Thanks for that but why are they still selling under these conditions?

abattoirs still work deadweight , they always have , 17-22.5 kg carcass , as these cut up fit the poly trays for supermarkets , marts sell liveweight , and why there has been so much controversy over the scales , a few kg knocked off over the bridge will pay buyers better , make up for full guts and wet fleece and make mart report look better .which penalises better k/o% continentals with tighter fleeces and lighter bone , though buyers tend to know these types and pay a bit more as they are more consistent carcases , That big boned wooly suffolk / hamp might look a champ at the ram sales but will hinder you at the fat market .

glensman · Mar 15, 2019

andybk said:
abattoirs still work deadweight , they always have , 17-22.5 kg carcass , as these cut up fit the poly trays for supermarkets , marts sell liveweight , and why there has been so much controversy over the scales , a few kg knocked off over the bridge will pay buyers better , make up for full guts and wet fleece and make mart report look better .which penalises better k/o% continentals with tighter fleeces and lighter bone , though buyers tend to know these types and pay a bit more as they are more consistent carcases , That big boned wooly suffolk / hamp might look a champ at the ram sales but will hinder you at the fat market .

All markets sell prime lambs half weight over here (n.ire)

d williams · Mar 15, 2019

andybk said:
abattoirs still work deadweight , they always have , 17-22.5 kg carcass , as these cut up fit the poly trays for supermarkets , marts sell liveweight , and why there has been so much controversy over the scales , a few kg knocked off over the bridge will pay buyers better , make up for full guts and wet fleece and make mart report look better .which penalises better k/o% continentals with tighter fleeces and lighter bone , though buyers tend to know these types and pay a bit more as they are more consistent carcases , That big boned wooly suffolk / hamp might look a champ at the ram sales but will hinder you at the fat market .

I know how the markets work and the slaughter houses work but I’ve never come across this way of halving their weight surely this is up to the buyers to decide and earn their commissions just seem all a bit on the buyers side not the sellers

d williams · Mar 15, 2019

glensman said:
All markets sell prime lambs half weight over here (n.ire)

Why overcomplicate something as simple as a weight multiplied price or a lump of money?
I must be missing something
They sold in the lump or per kg in Ireland?

glensman · Mar 15, 2019

d williams said:
I know how the markets work and the slaughter houses work but I’ve never come across this way of halving their weight surely this is up to the buyers to decide and earn their commissions just seem all a bit on the buyers side not the sellers

The buyers pay more or less per kilo according to quality, just the same as if their full weight was called out/on the screen. It makes no difference to the price, I'm guessing it makes it easier to value lambs for buyers.

d williams · Mar 15, 2019

glensman said:
The buyers pay more or less per kilo according to quality, just the same as if their full weight was called out/on the screen. It makes no difference to the price, I'm guessing it makes it easier to value lambs for buyers.

How does the calculation work throughout the year on say fed lambs as opposed to off grass lambs they still half it ?

glensman · Mar 15, 2019

d williams said:
How does the calculation work throughout the year on say fed lambs as opposed to off grass lambs they still half it ?

Yes, it's half weight, that's the standard way of selling prime lambs over here. I'm not aware of any market that does otherwise. Live selling isn't an exact science I suppose, whatever way it's done.

Shebb90 · Mar 15, 2019

St merryn still 4.10 for Monday. Thought it might of moved for Monday.

Old Tip · Mar 15, 2019

Shebb90 said:
St merryn still 4.10 for Monday. Thought it might of moved for Monday.

Disappointed, thought they would have upped it a bit, think mine will be going live this week

george 600 · Mar 15, 2019

Any word on what irish factories giving next week for cattle.abp,dawn ,kepak

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