FTTP on Demand

Openreach are in our village most days, as our FTTP system went live a month ago and villagers are cottoning on. I am averaging 300 down and 60 up these days, now on a Draytek router as BT could not get their Business Hub 5 or Hub 6 to do port forwarding on the WAN port. BT gave me £60 towards the Draytek. Most impressed with Draytek phone support, they even send an email summarising what they have done to fix the problem, so you don't need to phone again if you forget.
Please tell them to come down here and finish the job! :ROFLMAO:

Glad you’re happy with the Draytek. They’ve always had a good rep. I’ve never been a fan of ISP supposed routers, they’re usually junk built down to the lowest denominator and price.
 
Bout time for some updates on progress....

2/4/19:
Openreach have advised that the jointing has now been completed, we are waiting on the exchange work to be completed now.

4/4/19:
All external jointing works have been completed. We are currently chasing for the exchange work to be completed. Testing of the CBT and Splitter will then follow.

11/4/19:
Openreach advise today that they are currently chasing for the OCR exchange estimate to be completed before jointers can return to site. Underground allocator has assigned an engineer to site today to deal with the exchange work, if successful jointer will be assigned later in the week to complete the testing.

Before anyone asks, I have not the foggiest clue what an OCR exchange estimate is or means. Optical something or other I expect. I have asked Cerberus for clarification.

Still no closer to knowing when internal cabling and external lead-in from the pole and final end to end commissioning will be completed. At least we’re getting somewhere though.:)
 
Before anyone asks, I have not the foggiest clue what an OCR exchange estimate is or means. Optical something or other I expect. I have asked Cerberus for clarification.
So....I just googled it!

From:
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0027/84564/nga-network-cost-documentation.pdf
and
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0025/105685/Annex-10-Cartesian-Report.pdf

OCR (Optical Consolidation Rack)

3.41 The OCR is used for the splicing of the OCR Tie Cable into fibre cables for direct connection to the active equipment (in this case, the OLT). The OCR constitutes an efficient alternative to the traditional Optical Distribution Frame (ODF). The OCR is comprised of a few subcomponents, which are listed separately in the 2016 NGA model. The table below lists the subcomponents, as well as typical capacity values.

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Update yesterday from Cerberus...

“All external build has now been completed. Commissioning / audit will now need to be completed on this circuit before an appointment can be offered.”

Who knows maybe I’ll get a call before the end of April to arrange an appointment :eek: What are the chances eh?? :geek::ROFLMAO::LOL:
 

upnortheast

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Northumberland
Work going on at some speed with the local FTTP scheme. 2 week road closure for new poles & cabling.

Talking to a lady up the road. They put the fibre cable through a duct to us 4 weeks ago -she says

This stuff. Hmmmm
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sjt01

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Mixed Farmer
Location
North Norfolk
Our FTTP has been a bit flaky from day one, sometimes 300+ download, sometimes 30. 10 days ago (Bank Holiday weekend!) it finally ceased. Managed to find a location to put the router and 4G dongle where we could get some signal - the 4G dongle refused to work on a USB 3.0 extension lead, although all the lights said it was OK. Weds last week the Openreach lady diagnosed the premises connection to be dead, but fine at the pole. Thurs am new fibre from pole to house, and steady 300+ since. She said some of the fibre they install is dead from day 1. So much for quality control!
 
Our FTTP has been a bit flaky from day one, sometimes 300+ download, sometimes 30. 10 days ago (Bank Holiday weekend!) it finally ceased. Managed to find a location to put the router and 4G dongle where we could get some signal - the 4G dongle refused to work on a USB 3.0 extension lead, although all the lights said it was OK. Weds last week the Openreach lady diagnosed the premises connection to be dead, but fine at the pole. Thurs am new fibre from pole to house, and steady 300+ since. She said some of the fibre they install is dead from day 1. So much for quality control!
I’m definitely going to keep my existing 4G router for backup. I’m really hoping the fibre connection will be much more reliable than the old copper pair, which was no end of trouble.

I intend to run a connection from the Openreach termination on their ONT to the copper WAN port on my CradlePoint 4G router. I can then set the router up to either load balance, round robin or fail over the internet connection via either of its 2 4G/LTE radios (with up 2 SIM cards in each radio) or to the WAN port which will go out via the ONT to the FTTP connection.

I’m pretty much going to toss any Cerberus supplied routers in the attic cupboard.
 

Steevo

Member
Location
Gloucestershire
I’m definitely going to keep my existing 4G router for backup. I’m really hoping the fibre connection will be much more reliable than the old copper pair, which was no end of trouble.

I intend to run a connection from the Openreach termination on their ONT to the copper WAN port on my CradlePoint 4G router. I can then set the router up to either load balance, round robin or fail over the internet connection via either of its 2 4G/LTE radios (with up 2 SIM cards in each radio) or to the WAN port which will go out via the ONT to the FTTP connection.

I’m pretty much going to toss any Cerberus supplied routers in the attic cupboard.

I hope someone else understands this post.....to me it's just a load of words!
 
Forgot to add, I found out today that Cerberus have now launched a 1000 Mbps down / 220 Mbps up FTTP nationwide service over Openreach supplied tails.

It’s only available to native FTTP - so even if you have an FTTPoD connection you need to run the first twelve months in contract before the service goes “native” FTTP.

Certainly not cheap though! Although I expect if you were used to a leased line it would be!! :cool::p

https://www.cerberusnetworks.co.uk/node/183#
 

sjt01

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
North Norfolk
I’m definitely going to keep my existing 4G router for backup. I’m really hoping the fibre connection will be much more reliable than the old copper pair, which was no end of trouble.

I intend to run a connection from the Openreach termination on their ONT to the copper WAN port on my CradlePoint 4G router. I can then set the router up to either load balance, round robin or fail over the internet connection via either of its 2 4G/LTE radios (with up 2 SIM cards in each radio) or to the WAN port which will go out via the ONT to the FTTP connection.

I’m pretty much going to toss any Cerberus supplied routers in the attic cupboard.
We are using a Draytek router (to which BT contributed £60) as the BT Business Hub 6 cannot do port redirection which we need to log into the digester HMI remotely. We still have the BT Hub for the 4G fallback dongle, which they will not release settings to use it on the Draytek.
Compared to BT domestic support, I am quite impressed by the business support lines. Our 300 FTTP costs me £81/month, including the 4G fallback service
 
Our 300 FTTP costs me £81/month, including the 4G fallback service
On native FTTP the 300/50 Mbps Cerberus service with 4 or 8 IP addresses is between £40 and £45 per month + VAT depending on whether you go for a 12 or 24 month contract.

Edit: whoops make that £62.50 + VAT after 3 months of cough, ahem “introductory” pricing
 
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Steevo

Member
Location
Gloucestershire
Glad you’re happy with the Draytek. They’ve always had a good rep. I’ve never been a fan of ISP supposed routers, they’re usually junk built down to the lowest denominator and price.

Whilst I agree with this.....one benefit of ISP routers is they come with a 12 month warranty and get changed each time you swap supplier so if something goes wrong with them they aren't your problem/cost.

That said....I think one day I'll splash out on a Draytek.
 

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