On the chemical price tracker thread they are currently talking about formulations and the better formulation of adexar vs using straights of its constituent components of flux plus epoxy.
Why would adexar be getting positive things said about it, but boogie the opposite?
The sales pitch is that the formulation with the spiroxamine helps to drag the bixafen and prothio into the plant. It would however, seem strange, if It was just for one distributor.
I dont know the answers, but there does seem to be some product bashing for a certain products and then extolling of virtues of another product due to its formulation.
I guess it is impossible for AHDB to do trials on all the possible fungicide options, but maybe a few of these products need some independent comparisons.
Have NIAB TAG any data on this?
Very true, if the programme beforehand has been done properly. Put them under stress, e.g. apply at T2 with no previous treatment, and you might tease them apart. E.g. Elatus is best on rust, Ascra on septoria but any will do the same job at T2 if the diseases are under control up to that point.How much would I be way off the mark in saying the if you look at the whole picture ie the country, all trials, field scale etc etc that the big 4 ie adexar, aviator, elatus and ascra are all much of a muchness?
How much would I be way off the mark in saying the if you look at the whole picture ie the country, all trials, field scale etc etc that the big 4 ie adexar, aviator, elatus and ascra are all much of a muchness?
There's a depressing number of growers with serviced supply don't know what they pay for chemicals. Have heard several cases of the chemicals arriving on farm before the distributor agronomist visitsLike I said, it's the segmentation of pet products for each distributor so there isn't the p*ssing contest between the big 5 saying one is better than the other. Boogie, Skyway, Spartacus etc aren't bad products, they are just designed to be "different" for markting reasons. Remember that most posters in the Price Tracker threads aren't serviced customers so are using mainstream products like Adexar and Aviator.
I think I have agree. A case of You Pays Your Money......How much would I be way off the mark in saying the if you look at the whole picture ie the country, all trials, field scale etc etc that the big 4 ie adexar, aviator, elatus and ascra are all much of a muchness?
Going forward this is an academic debate but isn’t the inclusion of ctl in any septoria program evidence based?To be fair, NIAB TAG are fans of putting a litre of CTL in with most fungicides most of the time. Chlormequat is also pretty routine. Just how "fixed" are crop "variable" costs? I accept that what you're referring to is spring spray programmes determined in the distributors' winter meetings
Going forward this is an academic debate but isn’t the inclusion of ctl in any septoria program evidence based?
Now when we start taking stuff real next level in terms of CA, soil health etc etc if we can get it correct this is when the fixed variable cost truly becomes variable. This is my long term aim.To be fair, NIAB TAG are fans of putting a litre of CTL in with most fungicides most of the time. Chlormequat is also pretty routine. Just how "fixed" are crop "variable" costs? I accept that what you're referring to is spring spray programmes determined in the distributors' winter meetings
To be fair, NIAB TAG are fans of putting a litre of CTL in with most fungicides most of the time. Chlormequat is also pretty routine. Just how "fixed" are crop "variable" costs? I accept that what you're referring to is spring spray programmes determined in the distributors' winter meetings
How much would I be way off the mark in saying the if you look at the whole picture ie the country, all trials, field scale etc etc that the big 4 ie adexar, aviator, elatus and ascra are all much of a muchness?
Only a pen! I want at the very least a note book and pen holder to go with it, along with some other tat that will get thrown in the bin as soon it breaks the first time I try and use it On all honesty the promotional tat has got to the point that it actually put me off. Buy on product merit, ignore merchandising tatWhich manufacturer of the above gave you the nicest pen at cereals?
There is your answer.