Ferguson 3080 help gearbox

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Sonny1989

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• May 14, 2019

• #1

Hi.

Yesterday my hydraulics filter blocked, i put new filter on but now again today blocked again,
i took the gearbox cover of and it is full of steel shavings i then start to clean it out with diesel, when i was doing that i found 4 pieces of steel in the bottom of the gearbox ( see the attache picture )

Can anyone tell me where exactly the small steel plates come from, because everything looks ok in the gearbox

 

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masseybreaker

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wakefield

• May 14, 2019

• #2

the problem will be your brake discs have broken up either one side or both the parts in your photo look like the lugs off the plates in your pto pack dont worry about those too much . sort your brakes out first

 

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Sonny1989

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• May 14, 2019

• #3

Thanks, is it are Big job to fix the PTO?
Brakes is not more than 40h old but maybe the workshop not have used some time to clean it properly,

The “ shavings “ is also metal

 

masseybreaker

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Location

wakefield

• May 15, 2019

• #4

get a photo of the shavings please
the pto pack you need to remove the top link bracket then take the shaft out then take the left hand side plate off you will then be able to see the pto pack above the handbrake . on the top of the main casting there is a core plug knock that out the use a 13 mm socket to remove the locating bolt that is screwed into the top of the pack then slide the pack back

 

Keepin! It real

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South norfolk

• May 15, 2019

• #5

Them lugs look like there off the speed shift plate on early ones they had 3 lugs on disc then went to 6 lugs. ,there was then a later one which went to a multi disc.does the speed shift work ? Put a bar under the output shaft in gear box shouldn’t have any movement ,bearing use to fail which run in side the two shafts

 

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Sonny1989

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• May 15, 2019

• #6

Hi.

I fund 4 of them “ lugs “ i am not sure the tractor have Speedshift ? Can you Tell out from my pictures ? I have no mowement in Any shaft so bearings must be ok
all worked great before it blocked the filters,

I am just very worried about where the lugs come from and also all the shavings something must be wrong

Maybe A lighter soon will fix this

See pic

 

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masseybreaker

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wakefield

• May 15, 2019

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picture 2 is the pto pack are all the lugs on it ?

 

masseybreaker

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Location

wakefield

• May 15, 2019

• #14

also you have to understand that the parts that you have found might have been there years and the part has been replaced so everything might work ok apart from that the metal you have found looks very much like filings from the brakes. so i would clean it the best you can and run it

 

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Sonny1989

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• May 15, 2019

• #15

All lugs is in the pto, i Clean it the Best is Can and give A new pump and olie, now it is already taken apart

Thanks for your help

 

MF-ANDY

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Location

s.e cambs

• May 15, 2019

• #16

Keepin! It real said:

Them lugs look like there off the speed shift plate on early ones they had 3 lugs on disc then went to 6 lugs. ,there was then a later one which went to a multi disc.does the speed shift work ? Put a bar under the output shaft in gear box shouldn’t have any movement ,bearing use to fail which run in side the two shafts

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They do look like speed shift lugs but how would they escape from the speed shift housing?

 

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Sonny1989

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• May 15, 2019

• #17

Hi Andy.

I don’t know i found Them all 4 in the middel off the gearbox and get them out with A magnet, how Big A job is it to come into the speed shift at check it ?

 

MF-ANDY

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s.e cambs

• May 15, 2019

• #18

speed shift comes out of the front of the gear box after splitting at the clutch housing but as @masseybreaker said if it works i would leave well alone

 

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Sonny1989

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• May 15, 2019

• #19

okay so that i not in contact with the hydralic oil then?

something must be wrong i dont like to chance filters every week to keep it running, but again it Can be from a old brake repair

Can i check the brakes with out take the hole trump off ?

 

MF-ANDY

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Location

s.e cambs

• May 15, 2019

• #20

speedshift is a unit at the front of the gear box so yes it shares the same oil. the only way to check the brakes is to remove the trumpets